TOPIC: Gaining length post PMMA using non-surgical methods

smalljay wrote: ^^^ Thanks for the informed response as always, Hoddle. Hope to hell that one day with persistence I can be as blessed with gains as them. Even an additional .5\" or .25\" to me would be so extremely mentally healing. New1Inch and BigJohn are exceptionally inspirational to me because they were both past the age of their early 20\'s when they began PE, ensuring that no natural late pubertal growth was responsible for some of their gains (although I too find great inspiration in Sizemic who I believe began his PE in his late teens, and also Olafspo who may have started even younger). And I also admit that I myself didn\'t grow at all past the age of 16, so perhaps they did not either (some dudes do grow naturally up through early/mid 20s though). Thanks for sharing this info, if mods feel I have gone too far with stating relative ages please feel free to tell me to erase this part! (although they all openly declared their ages at some point on these forums or on proboards).

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I\'m very curious about all this as I\'ve just begun Hanging with a BibHanger. I see no reason to disbelieve that length gains can be achieved by stretching the ligs and pulling out some of your inner penis. It makes sense to me anatomically, especially when considering the LOT theory and penis exit placement.
I think the second aspect of Hanging, tunica expansion, is the part that can be more argued about and debated.

Interesting. Seems that the consensus is that when gaining length one is not pulling out the inner penis (like I thought), but actually experiencing tissue expansion. To me this means that if I achieve a 6\'\' EG through PMMA, and then gain some length, my Girth would be unchanged

Like a lot of people have mentioned Girth is more important than length when pleasing a woman. However, at 5.5 NBPEL I want to gain another Inch (1.5 would be awesome) to be satisfied with myself. I\'ll be getting a traction device soon (Penimaster Pro) and start my long and arduous quest for length!

Stillwantmore hangs nearly 30lbs from his penis now and has no injuries to report. He\'s also gained another 1/2\" in length since re-starting his weight Hanging since 9/27/11. Not too shabby. Of course, Stillwantmore is an experienced penis weight Hanger and knows what he is doing. He also acknowledges that while any many can hang weights from his penis, he should do so under the guidance of a qualified coach.

Stillwantmore is done talking about himself in the third person.

I would personally suggest getting the length you want first and then going for PMMA...I\'m not totally sure that I\'m convinced that the PMMA becomes part of the penis and would not suffer a tear or other damage from a Hanger device.

There is an article written by 2 urologist ( Dr. Marco Oderda and Dr. Paolo Gontero ) from Italy published in the Pub-Med :-
They have mentioned that a penile extender represents the only evidence based-technique of penile lengthening and it should be the 1st line of treatment for patients seeking penile lengthening :-
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=non-sur...penile%20lengthening
\"These two urologist I think they should know better than us\"
So if that is true what these two urologists from Italy have found, so continuous traction of the penis i.e. stretching the penis either by using an extender or hanging weights ( hanging weights will also stretch the penis more esp. if it is used for many hours / day) can elongate the penis.
So the Q. is where did the idea of stretching a penis come from and for how long is it ??

I am not saying or advising any one to use these techniques the answer is no what I am trying to explain :-
Stretching a penis for a longer period (i.e. many hours/day and for yrs) and with gradual increase in force can elongate a penis ???

I am sure that using an extender or weights can cause damage to a penis if it was used incorrectly.

\'From my understanding and early PE research, the length gains are real but the penis no longer functions normally. Not a good trade off IMHO.\'
Miracle7 is absolutely correct. I\'m normally 5.5 NPEL, but do reach 5.75 on a very good day. My length is in no way spectacular, however, I am completely happy with it. It is Girth that women want and crave, not length.
After years of studying and interpreting countless opinions on PE, I have come to the conclusion that it\'s just not worth the time and pain it takes to achieve just a minimal amount in gains. It is, of course, a personal decision one makes to do whatever they want to their body. But, it\'s just not worth the risks, time and pain it takes for even an 1/8 of an Inch in gain, IMO, and length in gain is not even guaranteed through PE.
I would advise against PE. Just go for Girth..the minimal amount achieved through PE and surgery is just not worth the very real and serious risks that go along with it. A .5 Inch gain in Girth will pleasure a girl more than .5 Inch gained in length by far - and it\'s not even close.

smartman, first off let me say that my response is not personal, and my only intention is to clear up the false stories about PE that have been circulating around the internet for years!
PE is a sort of pseudo-science and much of what we know are based on personal testimonies. In the best cases the testimonies are documented with photos and diaries on a forum such as this one. In most cases it is just hearsay, or a entirely fabricated story by some guy trying to make a living off of PE.
I understand that cultures have hung weight from their penises, that is well documented. However, this does not mean their intention was to increase penis size. Furthermore, I have not seen any legitimate reports of a man with a 20\" penis, let alone a 20\" penis that was the result of hanging weights.
In regards your claim about Karamojong men, it is just another rumor. This article disproves it: str8talkchronicle.com/?p=14721 .
I have seen the pictures of the men with \"long wooden tube-like\" contraptions over their penises. These are long bamboo rods on their penises, and this practice is for decoration, not penis enlargement. Some of them are even decorated with flowers, .
The fact is that Westerners have a bad habit of observing other cultures customs and interpreting them with their own biases. The proper way to observe another culture is to do away with your own preconceived notions and try to see the world through their eyes. This is where all of the confusion stems from.
The penis is a unique organ. It cannot be worked out like quads, or a bicep. It does not deform as bones do. Yes, the penis shares some of the same tissues as an ear or lip, but it is an entirely different organ with many complexities. We cannot look at an arbitrary body part and apply those principles to the penis and assume it will work the same way ' it just does not work that way.
Let me make it clear that I do believe natural PE is possible. I\'m just trying to separate the BS from the facts.

I dont see any reason to think thye penis will not be able to function normally in every case. In some cases, where they overdid it, possibly, but not every single time.

From my understanding and early PE research, the length gains are real but the penis no longer functions normally. Not a good trade off IMHO.

@Big Meat,
The Karamojong tribe of Northeastern Uganda at puberty boy hangs circular stone disks from the tip of his penis. When he becomes accustomed to the pain, more disks are added. His penis swings like a pendulum. By the time he\'s a teenager, he may carry as much as 20 pounds from his penis.
Karamojong men tie their cocks into knots.
Also the holy Sadhus of India they do the same thing.
I have some pictures of african men, they pull there penis through a long wooden tube-like (as a penile stretcher) and you can see part of the glans coming out of the other end of the tube reaching the upper part of their abdomen, i can send you these pictures if you want just PM me your e-mail.
There is a guy in the PEgym his nickname is \"diamondback\" is using the same method ( Penile tubing ) and he has great result ( N.B. it is dangerous ) :-
www.pegym.com/forums/penis-devices-forum...hod-illustrated.html I am not saying that any guy who wants to lengthen his penis he should do it, but my point of view that the penis can be lengthened by non-surgical methods but it needs a long period to get a great result ( but the risk of injuring your penis and ED is high).
As we know there are people e.g. in africa can stretch and lengthen part of their upper and lower lips and also their ear lobes :-



Also in India there are men stretch their penises with different methods :-

(check that in 4:15 min.)

The penis can be stretched and lengthen (but it is sure a slow method which need long time and a lot of dedication) like other part of our body but there will be a very high risk of damaging the function of your penis .

Contrary to popular belief, the neck is not actually lengthened; the illusion of a stretched neck is created by the deformation of the clavicle.

BIG MEAT is correct.

smartman wrote: I agree with you hoddle to prove that we are not pulling the inner penis it is only tissue growth :-
African tribes (for centuries) hung weights on their penises the whole day and they can lengthen their penises (sometimes they can reach 20\") imagine a penis lets say has 6\" and after a long period it became 20\"( the size of the inner penis is only 1/3 or 1/2 of the outer part so in this penis it is only 2\"-3\") and not 14\" so it is only due to tissues growth.
Also some african tribes have used tight necklaces to lengthen their necks and they had succeeded (and there is no inner part of the neck in our body lol).

Do you have any links to information to support your claims of men in Africa Hanging weights and experiencing gains? Africa is a very large continent, which tribe or region are you referring to? There are so many people making claims over the internet of \"ethnic\" men performing \"ancient PE\" to achieve lengths of 20\", its hard to keep track of these rumors. I believe they are just that, rumors.

In regards to your comment about the women who elongate their necks, they are actually Kayan (in Burma, not from the African continent). They wear brass collars in pursuit of beauty. Each coil is replaced with longer coil, as the weight of the brass pushes the collar bone down and compresses the rib cage. Contrary to popular belief, the neck is not actually lengthened; the illusion of a stretched neck is created by the deformation of the clavicle.

TRue. In fact, tissue expansion is at the core of several innovative techniques to induce changes in the facial structure and also behind some poeple\'s attempts at increasing their height (the latter is more painful, though, because you do need to work on your bones too).

I agree with you hoddle to prove that we are not pulling the inner penis it is only tissue growth :-
African tribes (for centuries) hung weights on their penises the whole day and they can lengthen their penises (sometimes they can reach 20\") imagine a penis lets say has 6\" and after a long period it became 20\"( the size of the inner penis is only 1/3 or 1/2 of the outer part so in this penis it is only 2\"-3\") and not 14\" so it is only due to tissues growth.
Also some african tribes have used tight necklaces to lengthen their necks and they had succeeded (and there is no inner part of the neck in our body lol).

Personally I don\'t think so, as I don\'t believe that we are pulling the inner penis out when we make length gains.