TOPIC: My introduction and question

Thanks Big John!

@Big John

Thanks for the reply. I\'m looking to get all the info I can prior to deciding on the lig snip surgery.

I would be 100% satisfied if I could gain at least .75\" after 6 months of post surgery Hanging. My concern is that I can\'t find many reports of guys making these gains after being avid hangers prior to surgery. I\'m starting to believe that almost anyone can gain a half Inch with manual PE, but maybe once manual gains stop, even a lig snip won\'t bring more gains. This may be especially true regarding pre-op heavy weight hangers, as these seem to be considered \"lig gains\" by most of the PE community.

As you mentioned, most of your Erect gains came prior to surgery. I have already gained .5\" Erect from Hanging and wonder if the lig snip will actually break my year long plateau. Flacid gains are a bonus to me but I wouldn\'t consider the surgery unless Erect gains were possible.

I look forward eagerly to hearing any future progress reports on your new Hanging endeaver. Even a half Inch gain would probably be enough to make me move forward, if there were no other serious downsides.

As for the angle difference, would you mind briefly expanding on your comments? If your pre-snip angle was straight out 90' before, what would you consider it now? Has it impacted you in any way regarding sex/positions? I know others have mentioned that having a girl riding you on top can be problematic as it tends to slide out or need to be held in place. Any issues as such?

Thanks a lot!

I think I gained a little from the lig cut but most was done prior with PE - jelq, ADS, and Hanging. The lig cut did give me more Flaccid which was nice. The angle change is there but not significant and if you can kegel, you can put it at any angle you want. I could not really hang following my procedure - light weight only - 2-4 lbs and not for very long - it felt like something was going to tear inside and I did not push it. I just started Hanging again and the same feeling is still present - after almost two years. I\'m going to hang, ADS, and Jelq for the next 6 weeks to max my length prior to PMMA but will be careful not to injure myself.

@Big John

Do you feel like the lig snip made the difference in being able to gain Erect length? Had you already made gains prior to surgery or did the full 1\" come afterwards with Hanging? Any changes in Erection angle post-op?

I\'m new to this forum and will schedule my PMMA procedure within the next two weeks - hopefully for right after the new year. I am not new to PE and natural enhancement. If you have time, I would start with PE, stretching, and eventually work into a Hanging routine supplemented by an ADS. I did this for years logged more than 5,000 hours on the JEZ extender SP?, and later a device that was much more comfortable that I bought from Dr Giunta - I think the grip system. I used Hanging for about 6 months and worked up to about 3 hours a day with a lot of weight. I hurt myself twice during this process and had to recover before continuing so be patient and don\'t rush it. I then had surgery with Dr Giunta for lengthening. The recovery took a bit longer and even now when I try to hang, I can feel something trying to tear - so I hang with only 2 lbs and occasional a bit at four. I used the ADS alot post op but really only gained when Flaccid. My length gains came from Jelqing and Hanging/stretching. I\'ve no kidding gained an Inch that is mine forever. At one point I could stretch my Flaccid penis to bone pressed 8+ inches. That was pure motivation dude! About three months after the length procedure I had Dr Giunta do the FFT for Girth. The few weeks were awesome - my penis was 6\" around at the base mostly from swelling and then settled down into a solid 5.5. It was short lived - my body reaborbed that fat like water - high metabolism I think. For me, the length first, however long that takes, followed by a Girth enhancement procedure was the way to go. And I\'m an old dude in my 40s. If you\'re young, why not try gaining some length which will also give you a lot more skin to bulk up when you go for your Girth increase. Also, who knows what new technology or refinements will be available to you in a couple of years. The demand is there and the medical community will figure it out - it\'s a money making dream to whomever gets it right. I don\'t know anybody who wouldnt want a larger penis. i understand the girlfriend pain - I lived with my little friend for a long time and got to the point where I would turn down sex because of fear at the response. So do it for you and be patient - don\'t hurt yourself!

PMMA is most likely my route as I couldn\'t find any procedure that\'s as safe or predictable. I\'ll most likely have it done in Jan or Feb.

I can relate. I am on the small side as well. Please let us know if you do anything because ur size and mine are close.

I like \'em small and round girl asses.

@ Mustang.. You dont like girls with huge asses? That would be a compliment to her saying she has a \'BIG ASS\"... Well unless your into those pancake ass chicks..lol.. Its Kim K type asses for me ONLY.

Small 4 and half wrote: Thanks, I do think it was a malicious attempt. She doesn\'t have the best personality to begin with. I do quite like Mustang\'s comeback wish I had thought of that earlier. But I\'m an optimist, I look at this as a catalyst for me to go forward with my life and improve the things that I\'m not happy about...mainly my \"short-coming\" .
As for alternative to PMMA injection S.O., what do you suggest? It seems PMMA has a lot of happy customers and a good track record as soft tissue filler for the last decade or so (according to the thread that you pointed out). At this point I know there isn\'t any lengthening procedure that\'s predictable, and Elist implant is out of the questions from some of the horror story I read on here and elsewhere.
I\'ll definitely read more about other things, as well as S.O.\'s progress report. Do you mind if I PM you questions since our sizes are alike?

Personally if I were to start all over, I would definitely be interested in checking out the PMMA, and the alternative would probably be FFT. These two are less invasive than other phallo-procedures and so I would start with them first (PMMA being considerably less invasive since it isn\'t technically surgery).
There are other methods such as grafts and the implant, however I personally find the abundant reporting on PMMA to be one of few reasons why I went in that direction. There are some reports on the alternative methods found both on the old & new forum which can also be useful.
In the end the decision is yours, just be sure it is an informed one And of course, feel free to PM me anytime.

Thanks, I do think it was a malicious attempt. She doesn\'t have the best personality to begin with. I do quite like Mustang\'s comeback wish I had thought of that earlier. But I\'m an optimist, I look at this as a catalyst for me to go forward with my life and improve the things that I\'m not happy about...mainly my \"short-coming\" .
As for alternative to PMMA injection S.O., what do you suggest? It seems PMMA has a lot of happy customers and a good track record as soft tissue filler for the last decade or so (according to the thread that you pointed out). At this point I know there isn\'t any lengthening procedure that\'s predictable, and Elist implant is out of the questions from some of the horror story I read on here and elsewhere.
I\'ll definitely read more about other things, as well as S.O.\'s progress report. Do you mind if I PM you questions since our sizes are alike?

Totally Agree SO...

Also, for all the REAL men out there, ANY time a woman tells you that you have a small penis, Tell the Bitch ; NO YOU HAVE A BIG VAGINA and a HUGE ASS....enough said

I agree mustang, she could have been finding some excuse (albeit a malicious one) to inflict damage in what was a failing relationship. Most normal & sane women are not going to react so virulently to a perceived inadequacy (I noted normal & sane, Size Queens are obviously not such)... which is why I highly doubt that your size was the central or primary reason she left.
Women are also incredibly horrible at communicating in general.

(*Note: I used the word \"perceived\" in relation to inadequacy, because we aren\'t really inadequate, but that it just seems that way relative to other cocks. A truly inadequate penis is one that could not functionally penetrate and inseminate a vagina for any number of reasons. I genuinely believe with most non-micro size penises that the vagina can obtain some level of stimulation with proper effort & technique.)

Welcome to our board!

Most likely she did not dump you for the size, some women use it as an excuse for other reason and/or to hurt your feelings.

Make sure you want to do any PE for you and NOT for the bitches, OK?

Edit: meant to say \"NOT for the bitches\"

Small 4 and half wrote: I\'ve been searching for ways to enhance my penis since last year, and I\'ve just found this board. A bit about why I\'m here, I was dumped recently, and the reason was my penis was small and it doesn\'t give her enough pleasure. So now I\'m searching for enhancing surgery. Luckily I found PB as it seems like girth enhancement with PMMA offers the most reliable, predictable and satisfactory results, judging from all the people on the forum who went this route.
I just want to say thank you to this board for giving me hope. I know I\'m on the smaller than average size, but I just want to get more girth for my self confidence.
I have a few questions, mainly how much girth should I realistically expect after my first PMMA shot? (I haven\'t book an appt yet but it\'ll be with Dr. Casavantes sometime in Feb after my trip, as he\'s highly recommended on PB) My mid shaft girth is a bit over 4\", with tight skin (so I don\'t think it\'s easy to accommodate a lot of cc).
Again, thank you for the existence of this board for people like me who has almost lost hope.

I highly recommend reading this thread in its entirety: phalloplasty.proboards.com/index.cgi?boa...=display&thread=90as well as the continuation thread found here: phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/Hea...antes-PART-2-5365403 (Copy & Paste this, the link is being stubborn).
You will also want to review all other pertinent threads as most questions have been answered before.
As for potential gains, hard to predict since now the Doctor uses 10% instead of 20%, but I suspect with your length you\'d achieve 0.5\" MSEG give-or-take after the first round. Gains are not guaranteed.
You may also want to follow my progress report found here: phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/S.O...re-amp-After-5354267 since we\'re very similar in pre-op dimensions.
I personally have no qualms with advocating PMMA to the under-average guy but I must stress that you must be willing to accept that this is still something lesser known in the long-term as far as complications are concerned. There are other phallo-methods as well, so it is equally advisable to do all your research
As for your girlfriend...she\'s a real bitch and you are extremely fortunate she\'s out of your life. Believe it or not, at your size you can still please women with your cock, but it requires some technique as well as mastery of foreplay. Majority of women have their own shortcomings, it amuses me they would ever make such a (mostly) unchangeable feature of a guy a central issue.
As much as it may suck to have experienced such a bitch in your life, it is indeed a blessing in disguise. Now you have an opportunity to not only reflect, but to pursue a lifestyle of self-improvement. Make penis augmentation just a part of many things to look forward to in life, which include (but are not limited to), good health, school and/or career goals, and other personal goals. You\'ll find that by succeeding in these things will you become more attractive to good women.
Good luck.