TOPIC: How much is the gain per 1 cc of 10% +20% PMMA

Of course I\'m not mad dude! I\'m very slow to anger! I know you were not stating that Dr. Casavantes was doing it for money but is was insinuated. You know how rumors get started and people form premature opinions. I was simply trying to avoid such. It is my understanding from Wade that the ring doesn\'t always occur and often when it does, it spontaneously resolves over a period of a couple months (eight weeks). If it persists or causes angst, you can have it treated via Kenalog injection or by additional PMMA during a followup procedure. I wouldn\'t worry about it. I\'m glad to have you here at PB\'s brother kcchief!

I am almost sure that Dr.C. will try to use only 10% for each rounds for all small penises and most of the average ones for two reasons one he could control the gain in Girth much better and more gradual I.e. He doesn\'t want a quick large gain in the 1st round in small penises with the 20% because it will be difficult in the 2nd round and may be he will need a 3rd round too just to smoothen the irregularities with 10% without increasing the Girth more and more which will be aesthetically not good.

He will definitely use 20% for big penises and not 10% because he wants a larger gain with an average volume esp. In the 1st round.
So as I mentioned before it is mostly the volume and not only because there is a risk of developing nodules or small lumps from the 20% and it is true if he injected the 20% in big penises ---> they could develop these small complication but he knows he is not worried about it because he will use in the 2 round 10% so he can camouflage the whole area and he can control the gain without any problem.

We know that the 10% is aesthetically better than the 20% , so which would you prefer ( in the top and in the bottom ??)
Of course all of us would prefer the aesthetic one on the top to hide and even any irregularities from the 20%.
He will either use 10% in the 1st round and will continue with same conc. Or he will use first the 20% and then the 10%\'s and I don\'t think the opposite will be a good idea.

If he uses ( and recommended ) the 10% first for the reason as a\" basal layer\" and then in the 2nd round he uses 10 or 20% on top of the basal layer as mentioned before, the question is now why doesn\'t he do the same thing for big penises or is the basal or ground layer is not so important in big penises ???

I am sorry if I made it long but in summary :-

1- The reason of not using the 20% only because there is a chance of developing nodules or small lumps, I don\'t think so because he is using it for big penises , but I do agree it will be easier for him in big penises to camouflage the irregularities in the following rounds with 10% without the fear of increasing the Girth a lot but in small penises it will be more difficult to control the increase in Girth after multiple rounds of 10%.

2- If he used the 10% in the 1st round as a basal layer ?? Why doesn\'t he do that also for the big penises ???


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Whats all this big penises get 20% and small get 10% talk? From my understanding he switched to 10% on all new patients as its more aesthetic etc.

IT HAS NOTHING to do with the size of one\'s penis. Percentages are determined based on an individual evaluation. Many big guys are starting at 10%. Dr. Casavantes prefers everyone start with 10% but will make an exception providing the patient\'s anatomy exhibits certain characteristics... not size. You are correct Zmann. Initial fill of 10% permits Wade and Dr. Casavantes\'s team the opportunity to see how your penis reacts to PMMA and firms up the tissue to allow higher concentrations in later rounds with more predictability. I hope this puts an end to the 10% - 20% confusion.

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I didn\'t mean to make any confusion but it is now clear that the 20% will give more gain than the 10% ( >1.5X ) and also the person will need a lesser volume with the 20% than as with the 10% to get the same gain .

a dual canister sub-dermal injection device fashioned with a microcanula can provide a pseudo-titration of 2 different concentrations of the same or different solution. i would CLARIFY that titration is actually the incorrect word to use in this setting, because titration in itself is a method that requires calculation & is timely. sO A more accurate statement would be that the 10% & 30% are mixed to produce an estimated 20% conc. solution. Dr. Casavantes mentioned to me in my last visit, that not many patients have approached him like i did about the titration, he mentioned he actually mixes the known 2% with the given 10% to produce a concentration closer to 6% and not 5%. So technically, no one has been injected with a 5% solution of new plastic, it should be clarified that its closer to 6%, based upon the unknown reliability of this injection device. I\'m sure there\'s a quality control report for this device too, but really who has the time. I\'m going to see him tomorrow, so i\'ll confirm this for any believer-skeptics out there and edit where i see fit. Cheers
~CHL

Some one mentioned that mixing solutions must be done under very strict lab conditions...any one remembers that?

@CHL
Thanks a whole bunch! Some very important information.

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from all the reports 20% certainly does seem to yield more gains than 10% From what I can judge, Erect gains seem to be about :10% - 0.3ins to 0.5ins20% - 0.5ins to 0.9ins