TOPIC: Compiled Summary of Alloderm Complication Rates (ongoing)

Dr Whiteheads Alloderm surgery can\'t be compared to what it is today. Whitehead used a single sheet of Alloderm. Today they either stich two sheets together and wrap or layer. Whitehead refused to do this as the chance of all the complications mentioned in other threads were too high. The trouble was by using just one sheet of Alloderm the gains were very poor (about 0.3\" in Erect Girth). To get around this he started epxerimenting by making incisions in the actual tunica and this lead to some terrible complications.

@EQ to be perfectly honest, I don\'t, and I respect what you\'re trying to do. I am always just a bit skeptical when it comes to the claims of PE docs.

Skeptical One wrote: ..I\'m not sure how he obtained these numbers when it can take many months before a patient post-op can fully realize gains.

If these are numbers over all his procedures why is this an issue. It may not include 2011 numbers but all indications are he no longer practices so recent cases should not be a concern.

Skeptical One wrote: ... \"With use of a stretching device,\" also suggests that there could have been a loss of length WITHOUT the use of a device, but he fails to mention those stats.

This is a great question. All procedures change over time. If the question is how many complications were found before he required a stretching device?

hoddle10 wrote: Dr Whiteheads Alloderm surgery can\'t be compared to what it is today. Whitehead used a single sheet of Alloderm...

The info from his site contradicts your statement.'With the Allograft Dermal Matrix Graft (Alloderm ') technique we are adding multiple layers of Allograft Dermal Matrix Graft (Alloderm ') under the penile skin on top of the erectile chambers to give thickness by \"stacking\" or \"folding\" the grafts. I do not use strips of Allograft Dermal Matrix Graft (Alloderm '), but create a conjoined graft. There are no contour defects and appearance and feel are normal. A penile stretching device is suggested after the widening procedure to combat Allograft Dermal Matrix Graft (Alloderm ') contraction that might occur.' www.drwhitehead.com/pw.html Maybe he evolved his procedure over time?

ripple wrote: @EQ to be perfectly honest, I don\'t, and I respect what you\'re trying to do. I am always just a bit skeptical when it comes to the claims of PE docs.

I\'m with you. I am going to try and gather as much data as I can and see where it leads.

His stats for length loss/scar formation post-op are not listed independently of traction therapy. In other words, there is no telling if length loss is common initially after a surgery. I consider this gap in the information a problem personally. Not saying he was intentionally misleading, since the stats themselves are likely accurate.
If length loss is a possibility, I\'d like to know how much of a risk it is, since not everyone can commit to the post-op stretching regimen required to ensure a regaining of length. Granted, he no longer practices, but his past statistics are still clearly relevant to today\'s use of Alloderm for penis enlargement.
Length loss has been reported from at least one former member off the top of my head (however, it was Alloderm with a separate doctor).

My consultation with Whitehead's staff did not garner any additional detail. I was told that Dr. Whitehead had worked on putting together study data over the years. Maybe one of his teaching assistants will finish and publish.

The staff member gave his opinion that the Alloderm risk numbers was similar to using Alloderm in other off brand applications (such as Hernias). His caution was that because PE is considered an elective cosmetic procedure most in the medical community felt that any such risks were unacceptable.
So, not that the risk numbers were higher, just that any serious adverse outcome was unacceptable for an elective cosmetic procedure.