TOPIC: Infections, Complications, Risks of PMMA?

With that being said, E.P. is right when suggesting that complications have been reported. Being minor in nature doesn\'t mean that it isn\'t a real risk. Not only can minor complications graduate to major complications (which haven\'t been seen yet thank goodness), but it also means that patients will have to either return to Tijuana OR find a local doctor willing to perform treatment. Be sure you are prepared for these risks as they can cost you out-of-pocket.

@ EP and all

I said I would expand on my comment how would you cope if it went wrong.

for some reason my edit didn\'t work so apologies. I must have forgotten to save it !

Basically I agree with HC that for him the risk reward makes sense and he explained why.

Similar I deal with risk all the time (trader) and I always look at worst case scenarios before engaging in a trade.

So my comment related to the fact I think everyone this should consider their response if things go wrong.

I imagined my wort case scenario to be: Lumps, deformity (from FFT), granuloma, inflammation. Treatments could range from Kenalog to Removal surgery and the very end result maybe my old size back with scar tissue and maybe looking a lot worse than when I started this journey.

I imagined this to be costly time consuming and that I would be unhappy and disappointed.

But

I knew I would be able to pull through and that my wife would support me all the way and that when all was said and done it the effect on my life would be only temporarily negatively affected. Knowing me I would make up a story about how a shark tried to eat my Cock and tell this everytime I had a beer lol

So for me I felt I could justify it.

However had I been in my mid twenties I would have had a different attitude as a scared penis (worst case,Removal etc) would be the last thing I wanted and the negative effect would have been amplified and perhaps caused me long term problems.

So I urge anyone to look not only at the positives in getting this done but also at how would you cope if things didn\'t turn out right. Have you got a strong relations ship that would help you through it ? friend or family or have you got a bullet proof ego that would allow you to be happy regardless of a less than perfect result? Can you afford the cost!

Now this is if you have an average or good sized penis.

If you are well below average and already very unhappy then the situation changes again as you could justify the risk better. Basically what have you got to loose might be your attitude (would be mine in that scenario)

Hope that explained my comment a bit better!

EQ reality checks are always welcome. More than that, reasonable people cannot do without.

The chances of having a chunk of our unit removed are to be factored in/estimated, within our decision making process.

Boys, how depressing is reality, sometimes.

@ S.O.

It's very clear that the medical community certainly considers granulomas a very serious complication of permanent fillers (PMMA). Even the staunchest proponents of Artefill considers granulomas a serious complication, some like Alastair Carruters who were amongst the leaders in championing Artefill have since done a 180 based on the number, severity, and treatment efficacy of real world granulomas. www.entrepreneur.com/tradejournals/article/135215598.html Lemperle's propaganda has since been soundly discredited on this issue.It is important that we remember that a PMMA granuloma is not just a lump or lesion. It is a late-onset inflammatory response which typically occurs from 1 to 10+ years after injection. As such it can vary in intensity from mild to very severe and can be very painful. In severe cases it can become fluid filled (pus) and drain. In some cases it can become a chronic inflammatory condition meaning it may appear to resolve either from treatment or spontaneously but reappears at some future point in time.Sometimes a picture helps in these discussions. The following illustrates an example severe permanent filler granuloma and resulting surgical excision. It is not a PMMA triggered granuloma but the morphology is similar and provides a good visual that illustrates a filler triggered granuloma. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21430829TreatmentWhile there are treatments options, typically with a corticosteroid and anti-mitotic combination, the reality is that some PMMA granulomas do not respond even after a year or more of treatment and have to be surgically removed.IncidencesThe initial Arfefill study (5 years) presented to the FDA had 2 cases of severe granulomas out of 145 people (1.4%). One partially responded to treatment the other had to be surgically removed. The FDA mandated follow-up had 6 cases out of 1008 at the 3 year mark (1 at the 1 year mark) (0.59%). phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5403442 If Sunvale Medical\'s (Artefill) commentary that Newplastic is similar to Arteplast is true then we should expect a 10 fold increase in adverse effects from Newplastic! It is reasonable to project that at the 5 year mark; for every 100 of us that have PMMA injections, 2 of us will get a granuloma, 1 of us will get it resolved after 4 months to a year of treatment, and 1 of us will need to have it surgically removed!

Thanks Hoddle

Veil sounds a good option.

Trying to get all the bases covered if i do get PMMA.

Go to a plastic surgeon then. Kenalog is just a steroid and is used in plastic surgery all the time when scar tissue is too thich or swelling is bad. Mr Viel used Kenalog on me.

Thanks Hoddle but the NHS are not noted for their speedy appointment\'s, although definitely an option.

I was thinking more of a private practitioner. Would prefer any possible issues resolved as quickly as possible.

The NHS would treat you.

Does anyone know a Doctor in the Uk that would treat granulomas in the penis from PMMA.

Either through Kenalog injections or some other method.

Asking because, would be greatly relieved if i would not need to travel to Mexico for treatment every time a complication occured.

Does anyone know/heard of someone who has had PMMA in penis for two years or longer?I asked Wade if there has been any serious complications with penis on their patients and he said: No.
Great luck that there is honest folk with so much knowledge on this forum!!

Agree with brother smartman.

I don\'t think PMMA particles will get hard or change overtime (>10 years) to answer this (this is only my opinion) :-
1- PMMA has been used in bone cement for more than 50 years and they still use it .
2- PMMA has been used also as a tissue filler in human for 22 years e.g. Arteplast (the first worst PMMA generation---> has only 2.5% FBG) was first used in people in 1989 , so if there was any change or hardening of PMMA particles during this long period ----> I am sure FDA wouldn\'t give the Approval for Artefill if there was any serious complication of PMMA in general ( Artefill it contains the same PMMA microspheres but only the beads here have smooth surface with no electro-static charges and have < 1% in number of small particles (size < 20 nm) and thats why it has the lowest rate of FBG formation.
N.B. I am talking about the complication of the product per se and not of the technique of the doctor.
I think all of us looking for something (for Girth enhancement) which is more permanent and has a lower risk of complication , and the opposite is true (the worst product in my opinion is the one which has a high risk of complication and to a lesser extent if it is also not permanent).

@JBM
Removal? you don\'t mean penis Removal?

I\'m interested to hear from those of you that have researched this stuff extensivley about the long term changes in PMMA (5-10years and more). Does it change like most plastics do over times? Does it get hard over time? I haven\'t read much in the discourse about that aspect of PMMA.

@justabitmore - very well said!!