TOPIC: Morganstern permanent length girth procedure

Hey so I've been trying to call them with no success. I'm just curious does anyone know what the procedure involves? I'm a extreme turtler (i turtle to less than an Inch sometimes) but my BPEL is 6.25 my msg is around 5.25. I've been doing pe for a while and I have gained el but my fl suffers because of the Turtling. I seen some pictures on his site and the before and after on some are the exact results I'm looking for.

I tried to contact them via their 'contact us' link. Almost a week ago, no response so far..

@Bonsi

@texas What's the timing between the two procedures?

I havent done the second procedure of 10mls yet . Ill be posting more after that.

A turtler will always turtle. But fillers can help mitigate the Turtling effect. I\'ll still turtle, but it\'s not nearly as aggressive pre-filler. And days that it manages to hang, it hangs quite well.

The problem with the lengthening procedure is the necessary commitment with post-op stretching that goes with it. Not everyone has the time or lifestyle to accommodate all the necessary post-op protocol. And even with all of that, I don\'t know that length would be guaranteed. If anything, fat pad reduction (through diet and/or surgery) may be better for yielding more length, especially in your case (given your starting size).

i was looking into fat pad lipo. I used to compete and even when I was sub 5% bf I had s 1' difference in BPEL. I just can't get rid of that area.

I've tried once every other day at random times for about a week now, I leave messages but no call back.

ive done a little research on fillers and I've found a few people with Turtling as bad as mine and they have all been not that happy. I was actually looking into a lig cut too, some have had success with the Turtling. But it doesn't say on his site if that's what he does for his lengthing procedure.

A turtler will always turtle. But fillers can help mitigate the Turtling effect. I\'ll still turtle, but it\'s not nearly as aggressive pre-filler. And days that it manages to hang, it hangs quite well.

The problem with the lengthening procedure is the necessary commitment with post-op stretching that goes with it. Not everyone has the time or lifestyle to accommodate all the necessary post-op protocol. And even with all of that, I don\'t know that length would be guaranteed. If anything, fat pad reduction (through diet and/or surgery) may be better for yielding more length, especially in your case (given your starting size).

@texas What's the timing between the two procedures?

@ 6x6
I havent wrote a thread yet because i was waiting until my entire procedure was complete. 20ML. = 2x10ml sessions.
I gained a full Inch on Flaccid Girth from just the first 10mls. BUT, but, everyone responds different to the first go round: form what they told me and all the people on here who have had it done.
i also did the 4yr product ( not sure if that makes any difference ) .
I have not been able to track Erect my Girth as well as my Flaccid . But ill have stats up soon.

also, ( for me ) this product stopped a lot of Turtling and i got about and Inch on Flaccid length - this is not NEW length, just a non retracted length.
I would hang Flaccid anywhere from 3.5 to 4.5 depending on conditions etc. after the first week i haven\'t seen less than the 4.5 ever.

Im now longer than that in Flaccid length due to my Hanging routine. About 5, give or take, based on conditions . Ill post more details on this later. Ill be Hanging until the day of the next procedure then after as well, until the desired ( reasonable ) length goal is meet.

They have always returned my calls, sometimes it takes a few days but I have always gotten a call back. Did you try email?

@Texas, what was your before and after stats? I'm strongly considering Morgansten, he seems to offer the best options. He offers multiple services, which did you do? If you already wrote a thread about it I apologize I didn't see it, please link it here or if you already did write one. Thank you!

They always seem to return my calls. But I will say in the beginning, when you go through the automated system and click the options that pertain to you, PENIS ENLARGEMENT, They have certain staff for that. You can click another option if you want to verify people work there.

There were no less than 10-13 people working at the office when I went there. And a fair mix of clientele in the waiting room, including two elderly couples.

I did have to wait for a call back after leaving my first message. I am sure they get a lot calls. I was pissed to but, I got over it once I talked to them.

I've tried once every other day at random times for about a week now, I leave messages but no call back.

ive done a little research on fillers and I've found a few people with Turtling as bad as mine and they have all been not that happy. I was actually looking into a lig cut too, some have had success with the Turtling. But it doesn't say on his site if that's what he does for his lengthing procedure.

Hey so I've been trying to call them with no success. I'm just curious does anyone know what the procedure involves? I'm a extreme turtler (i turtle to less than an Inch sometimes) but my BPEL is 6.25 my msg is around 5.25. I've been doing pe for a while and I have gained el but my fl suffers because of the Turtling. I seen some pictures on his site and the before and after on some are the exact results I'm looking for.

I don\'t think they offer permanent length gains. I understand the issue with Turtling but I suspect you\'d get more out of a round of filler (not too much) to help your Flaccid extend more. I would strongly recommend against a full-blown lengthening procedure with your given size. I believe they do offer filler procedures which should help counter Turtling a bit.

You\'re calling a doctors office (Morgenstern) and no one answers the phone? Seriously? That\'s a bad sign. I\'ve never heard of a doctors office not answering the phone. What if you have a post op emergency and need to see the doctor?

Most places usually give you a nurse or doctor\'s personal number AFTER you have had work done in the event of an emergency...and there is always local emergency centers since often times a patient wont reside in the same town as the doctor who performed the procedure.

A front desk receptionist not answering a phone isn\'t necessarily alarming. Member H3o never indicated how many times he called, hours he called (office lunch break?), or if he left a message. It\'d be a bad sign if a patient had work done, had issues, and couldn\'t access a medical professional from their clinic. Let\'s be mindful of what \"bad signs\" are.

You\'re calling a doctors office (Morgenstern) and no one answers the phone? Seriously? That\'s a bad sign. I\'ve never heard of a doctors office not answering the phone. What if you have a post op emergency and need to see the doctor?

Same here, looking into doing the Girth and length procedure. I contacted them twice this week via their response button. Anyone have experience with the surgical procedures?