# PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://phalloboards.info/register.html) - General Phalloplasty Discussion (2.0 Archive) ## [General Phalloplasty Discussion (2.0 Archive)](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive.html "View Category 'General Phalloplasty Discussion (2.0 Archive)'") A copy of PhalloBoards 2.0 written content. ### [Love, Lust, & Vanity](https://phalloboards.info/forum/love-lust-vanity.html "View Category 'Love, Lust, & Vanity'") Discuss why We Seek Penis Enlargement. Topics also include Sex Life, Sexual Health, Erection Quality & Libido, Understanding Female Anatomy, Dissecting Size Insecurities, etc. 294 Topics 4481 Replies [Re: Just for testing](https://phalloboards.info/forum/love-lust-vanity/10152843-just-for-testing.html#1308723203 "test") by [Eric](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/458-eric.html "View Eric's Profile") September 22nd, 2025 19:24 UTC ### [Patient Support Group & Progress Reports](https://phalloboards.info/forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports.html "View Category 'Patient Support Group & Progress Reports'") Chronicle your journey and/or submit patient-specific questions here. Before & After Photos. 749 Topics 28.3k Replies [Re: Pmma issues](https://phalloboards.info/forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/10139300-pmma-issues.html?start=15#1308725396 "Has anyone used or have any info on Dr Bidair in San Diego. He says he can remove pmma from penis with just local anesthesia.") by [Toothman](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/5017000-toothman.html "View Toothman's Profile") June 28th, 2026 03:47 UTC ### [Man Cave](https://phalloboards.info/forum/man-cave.html "View Category 'Man Cave'") Non-PE Related Discussions, including Sports, Celebrities/Models, Cars, Music, Video Games, Hobbies, and Humor. 36 Topics 404 Replies [Re: Bizzare World Records](https://phalloboards.info/forum/man-cave/7135642-bizzare-world-records.html#1308372641 "Number 30 has been scientifically disproven in my sexual lab. As my wife was orgasming I started bleeting like a doe in heat, stopped her orgasm dead in its tracks. Her after she stopped laughing, '...") by [Bonsi](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/5964089-bonsi.html "View Bonsi's Profile") April 23rd, 2019 12:09 UTC ### [Penis Enlargement Exercises, Equipment, Supplements, & All Other Non-Surgical Methods](https://phalloboards.info/forum/penis-enlargement-exercises-equipment-supplements-all-other-non-surgical-methods.html "View Category 'Penis Enlargement Exercises, Equipment, Supplements, & All Other Non-Surgical Methods'") Discuss the Effectiveness PE Exercises, Pills & Supplements, and All Other Alternative Means to Gaining Size. 0 Topics 12 Replies [Re: The Penis-Hanger](https://phalloboards.info/forum/penis-enlargement-exercises-equipment-supplements-all-other-non-surgical-methods/10060341-the-penis-hanger.html#1308684456 "@Hunkydory01 Hey, Hunky You don't believe to used car salesman right? Here is the similar case. First of all, claim of erect length gain of 2 inches+ is simply ridiciolus from medical aspect as...") by [Herbert\_West](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4212657-herbert-west.html "View Herbert_West's Profile") May 28th, 2019 19:13 UTC ### [Polls-Only](https://phalloboards.info/forum/polls-only.html "View Category 'Polls-Only'") Polls Tend to get Lost Quickly in Bigger Forums, so a Poll-Specific Board is the Solution! 40 Topics 571 Replies No topics ### [Archive](https://phalloboards.info/forum/archive.html "View Category 'Archive'") 17 Topics 152 Replies [Re: Has anyone tried Stretcher all ...](https://phalloboards.info/forum/archive/10124237-has-anyone-tried-stretcher-all-day-system.html#1308461979 "Tbone hit the nail right on. ALI is great. some shit is , cheap shit. some stuff actually works well. Ive purchased tons of shit from there for all the different R&D ive done. But with...") by [Texas](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/6380043-texas.html "View Texas's Profile") May 3rd, 2019 21:28 UTC [ ](#forumbottom) ## General Phalloplasty Discussion (2.0 Archive) 6 Replies ### [Pre Planned excuse for Granulomas.](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8475230-pre-planned-excuse-for-granulomas.html "If you get granulomas what would you tell your wives, girlfriends, boyfriends ? Would you tell them the truth or do you have a pre planned excuse? if so please tell me") Topic started April 12th, 2017 08:17 UTC, by [Reklaw](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html "View Reklaw's Profile") [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8475230-pre-planned-excuse-for-granulomas.html#1295397796 "HD thanks for that, that's useful, I think il use a similar excuse. Sorry for late reply I'm really ill right now.") April 14th, 2017 10:07 UTC by [Reklaw](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html "View Reklaw's Profile") 1971 Views [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8475230-pre-planned-excuse-for-granulomas.html#1295397796 "HD thanks for that, that's useful, I think il use a similar excuse. Sorry for late reply I'm really ill right now.") by [Reklaw](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html "View Reklaw's Profile") April 14th, 2017 10:07 UTC 25 Replies ### [Discounted HA Phalloplasty](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8158295-discounted-ha-phalloplasty.html "Hi Members ( no pun....) We have had a number of requests to provide more pictures - especially documenting increase in size vs volume injected and pre/post erect photos. And video of the procedure...") Topic started June 27th, 2016 13:48 UTC, by [Dr\_Oates](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4460953-dr-oates.html "View Dr_Oates's Profile") [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8158295-discounted-ha-phalloplasty.html?start=15#1295376783 "In my face, I was pleased.") April 12th, 2017 08:07 UTC by [Reklaw](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html "View Reklaw's Profile") - [1](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8158295-discounted-ha-phalloplasty.html?start=0 "Page:1") - [2](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8158295-discounted-ha-phalloplasty.html?start=15 "Page:2") 4897 Views [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8158295-discounted-ha-phalloplasty.html?start=15#1295376783 "In my face, I was pleased.") by [Reklaw](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html "View Reklaw's Profile") April 12th, 2017 08:07 UTC 6 Replies ### [ADS Recommendation](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8468025-ads-recommendation.html "Anyone here recommend an all day stretcher for length? I'm using Phallosan but I have to constantly adjust it to make sure it doesn't close / stays in the green limit instead of just putting it on and...") Topic started April 4th, 2017 21:26 UTC, by [dinogoesrawr](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4787932-dinogoesrawr.html "View dinogoesrawr's Profile") [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8468025-ads-recommendation.html#1295371064 "Quote:Its pretty good. I thought they wouldnt have anything to fit my glans but surprisingly they do. I wear it all the time except when i have to pee, its a pain in the ass to take put it back on bc u got...") April 11th, 2017 17:06 UTC by [indiano123](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4089166-indiano123.html "View indiano123's Profile") 2457 Views [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8468025-ads-recommendation.html#1295371064 "Quote:Its pretty good. I thought they wouldnt have anything to fit my glans but surprisingly they do. I wear it all the time except when i have to pee, its a pain in the ass to take put it back on bc u got...") by [indiano123](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4089166-indiano123.html "View indiano123's Profile") April 11th, 2017 17:06 UTC 25 Replies ### [Recently had Elist Penuma 4th generation implant](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8463473-recently-had-elist-penuma-4th-generation-implant.html "I had the Elist implant in January and so far so good. I had read many negative things about it on the PhalloBoards but chose to go forward with it as many of the people posting had the older model...") Topic started March 31st, 2017 03:57 UTC, by [Kish](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4917193-kish.html "View Kish's Profile") [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8463473-recently-had-elist-penuma-4th-generation-implant.html?start=15#1295345010 "So far, I think it is fake, even if paid a few dollars will never hurt elist pockets...LOL. Also, no response from him, means a lot!") April 8th, 2017 19:10 UTC by [Mustang2020](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/1715850-mustang2020.html "View Mustang2020's Profile") - [1](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8463473-recently-had-elist-penuma-4th-generation-implant.html?start=0 "Page:1") - [2](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8463473-recently-had-elist-penuma-4th-generation-implant.html?start=15 "Page:2") 4352 Views [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8463473-recently-had-elist-penuma-4th-generation-implant.html?start=15#1295345010 "So far, I think it is fake, even if paid a few dollars will never hurt elist pockets...LOL. Also, no response from him, means a lot!") by [Mustang2020](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/1715850-mustang2020.html "View Mustang2020's Profile") April 8th, 2017 19:10 UTC 5 Replies ### [PMMA and flaccid dicks, mine looks different everyday](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8467042-pmma-and-flaccid-dicks-mine-looks-different-everyday.html "I was wondering if other guys have the same issue. The one thing I hate about PMMA is that my flaccid dick looks different every time I take it out. There are about 4 or 5 different looks: If I...") Topic started April 3rd, 2017 23:35 UTC, by [Hunkydory01](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4520710-hunkydory01.html "View Hunkydory01's Profile") [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8467042-pmma-and-flaccid-dicks-mine-looks-different-everyday.html#1295315826 "lol 'pity' - I woke up with a hard on today and thought damn that looks flawless - so I am not focusing on this. Had a chat with Reklaw and that was helpful, - and hilarious. I also noticed that these...") April 5th, 2017 18:32 UTC by [Hunkydory01](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4520710-hunkydory01.html "View Hunkydory01's Profile") 2279 Views [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8467042-pmma-and-flaccid-dicks-mine-looks-different-everyday.html#1295315826 "lol 'pity' - I woke up with a hard on today and thought damn that looks flawless - so I am not focusing on this. Had a chat with Reklaw and that was helpful, - and hilarious. I also noticed that these...") by [Hunkydory01](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4520710-hunkydory01.html "View Hunkydory01's Profile") April 5th, 2017 18:32 UTC 2 Replies ### [Dr N Prague Payement](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8462558-dr-n-prague-payement.html "Does anyone know if Dr N requires payement in Koruna or will card do?") Topic started March 30th, 2017 09:40 UTC, by [naginati](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4881541-naginati.html "View naginati's Profile") [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8462558-dr-n-prague-payement.html#1295257832 "Oh so she got a terminal after all! I was there last summer and she didn't have one then") March 30th, 2017 16:48 UTC by [andydandy](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/2028412-andydandy.html "View andydandy's Profile") 2089 Views [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8462558-dr-n-prague-payement.html#1295257832 "Oh so she got a terminal after all! I was there last summer and she didn't have one then") by [andydandy](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/2028412-andydandy.html "View andydandy's Profile") March 30th, 2017 16:48 UTC 19 Replies ### [Are There Any Dr. Elist Patients Who Are Happy Out There? Help!](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/5695754-are-there-any-dr-elist-patients-who-are-happy-out-there-help.html "Hey Gents, Thank God I came across this website before I went through Dr Elist's implant procedure. I'm 35 yo and in good shape and fairly attractive, but there is one important thing missing and...") Topic started February 6th, 2012 04:55 UTC, by [jonnyboi](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/1855123-jonnyboi.html "View jonnyboi's Profile") [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/5695754-are-there-any-dr-elist-patients-who-are-happy-out-there-help.html?start=15#1295236877 "Moderator Edit: This post serves no purpose and walks a thin line between criticism and defamation. For this purpose, the content of this entire post has been deleted. @fullrun It would be more...") March 28th, 2017 18:01 UTC by Dr Oates - [1](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/5695754-are-there-any-dr-elist-patients-who-are-happy-out-there-help.html?start=0 "Page:1") - [2](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/5695754-are-there-any-dr-elist-patients-who-are-happy-out-there-help.html?start=15 "Page:2") 4755 Views [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/5695754-are-there-any-dr-elist-patients-who-are-happy-out-there-help.html?start=15#1295236877 "Moderator Edit: This post serves no purpose and walks a thin line between criticism and defamation. For this purpose, the content of this entire post has been deleted. @fullrun It would be more...") by Dr Oates March 28th, 2017 18:01 UTC 93 Replies ### [Dr Elist Implant Help fast!!](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/6302263-dr-elist-implant-help-fast.html "I just had surgery done last Friday 04-12-2013, DR. Elist Implant, and I'm really worried right now. My balls are huge, and black (I'm white). My penis looks deformed as shit, and I wish I could I...") Topic started April 17th, 2013 01:35 UTC, by [thachosenone2013](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/2125092-thachosenone2013.html "View thachosenone2013's Profile") [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/6302263-dr-elist-implant-help-fast.html?start=90#1295236859 "Moderator Edit: This post serves no purpose and walks a thin line between criticism and defamation. For this purpose, the content of this entire post has been deleted. @fullrun It would be more...") March 28th, 2017 17:59 UTC by Dr Oates - [1](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/6302263-dr-elist-implant-help-fast.html?start=0 "Page:1") - [2](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/6302263-dr-elist-implant-help-fast.html?start=15 "Page:2") - [3](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/6302263-dr-elist-implant-help-fast.html?start=30 "Page:3") - ... - [7](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/6302263-dr-elist-implant-help-fast.html?start=90 "Page:7") 11.7k Views [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/6302263-dr-elist-implant-help-fast.html?start=90#1295236859 "Moderator Edit: This post serves no purpose and walks a thin line between criticism and defamation. For this purpose, the content of this entire post has been deleted. @fullrun It would be more...") by Dr Oates March 28th, 2017 17:59 UTC 33 Replies ### [Dr. Elist woes](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/6019776-dr-elist-woes.html "Hi all, I posted the same on the same username on another forum thinking that was the site i had been to but it is in fact this one: I've been readin these boards for the past couple weeks and wish I...") Topic started September 21st, 2012 20:25 UTC, by [Microphoncheck](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/1984307-microphoncheck.html "View Microphoncheck's Profile") [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/6019776-dr-elist-woes.html?start=30#1295236396 "Quote:Bad decision by all of us to trust Dr.Elist and his procedure! Most get it removed Welcome to the board. I've noticed that, in the 3hrs that you've been a member, your activities have been limited to...") March 28th, 2017 17:20 UTC by [chester](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4437325-chester.html "View chester's Profile") - [1](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/6019776-dr-elist-woes.html?start=0 "Page:1") - [2](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/6019776-dr-elist-woes.html?start=15 "Page:2") - [3](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/6019776-dr-elist-woes.html?start=30 "Page:3") 6181 Views [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/6019776-dr-elist-woes.html?start=30#1295236396 "Quote:Bad decision by all of us to trust Dr.Elist and his procedure! Most get it removed Welcome to the board. I've noticed that, in the 3hrs that you've been a member, your activities have been limited to...") by [chester](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4437325-chester.html "View chester's Profile") March 28th, 2017 17:20 UTC 107 Replies ### [The contiuing lies of elist and his practice about his silicone implant, will it end?](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/6195095-the-contiuing-lies-of-elist-and-his-practice-about-his-silicone-implant-will-it-end.html "This is amazing, this is not American, or may be it is. He seems to be protected by the medical/legal system some how. Patients will sign a waiver that basically relieves his practice from being held...") Topic started February 5th, 2013 04:35 UTC, by [Mustang2020](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/1715850-mustang2020.html "View Mustang2020's Profile") [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/6195095-the-contiuing-lies-of-elist-and-his-practice-about-his-silicone-implant-will-it-end.html?start=105#1295236368 "Fullrun, have you had any experience with Dr Elist? I mean, it's hard to be credible when you have little evidence to back your story up.") March 28th, 2017 17:17 UTC by [Reklaw](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html "View Reklaw's Profile") - [1](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/6195095-the-contiuing-lies-of-elist-and-his-practice-about-his-silicone-implant-will-it-end.html?start=0 "Page:1") - [2](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/6195095-the-contiuing-lies-of-elist-and-his-practice-about-his-silicone-implant-will-it-end.html?start=15 "Page:2") - [3](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/6195095-the-contiuing-lies-of-elist-and-his-practice-about-his-silicone-implant-will-it-end.html?start=30 "Page:3") - ... - [8](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/6195095-the-contiuing-lies-of-elist-and-his-practice-about-his-silicone-implant-will-it-end.html?start=105 "Page:8") 12.5k Views [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/6195095-the-contiuing-lies-of-elist-and-his-practice-about-his-silicone-implant-will-it-end.html?start=105#1295236368 "Fullrun, have you had any experience with Dr Elist? I mean, it's hard to be credible when you have little evidence to back your story up.") by [Reklaw](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html "View Reklaw's Profile") March 28th, 2017 17:17 UTC 0 Replies ### [My experience with talking to different doctors](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8451119-my-experience-with-talking-to-different-doctors.html "Just wanted to say that I'm not promoting the FFT/stem cell procedure I had. I realize there are many members on this board that have more knowledge and experience with the different procedures than...") Topic started March 19th, 2017 22:32 UTC, by Dr Oates [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8451119-my-experience-with-talking-to-different-doctors.html#1295223288 "Priapus shot didn't do anything for me at all, but sting a little when it was being done and take my money. Thanks for the post though; it gives a good list of go-to doctors that members should research.") March 27th, 2017 14:32 UTC by [ntwest](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4498325-ntwest.html "View ntwest's Profile") 2402 Views [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8451119-my-experience-with-talking-to-different-doctors.html#1295223288 "Priapus shot didn't do anything for me at all, but sting a little when it was being done and take my money. Thanks for the post though; it gives a good list of go-to doctors that members should research.") by [ntwest](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4498325-ntwest.html "View ntwest's Profile") March 27th, 2017 14:32 UTC 4 Replies ### [Circumcision Revision advice](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8381784-circumcision-revision-advice.html "I currently have a partial circumcision done by Dr Kim from Korea that looks horrible (pics below), at somepoint in the future I will need a circumcision revision. Does anybody know any circumcision...") Topic started January 15th, 2017 19:45 UTC, by [Reklaw](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html "View Reklaw's Profile") [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8381784-circumcision-revision-advice.html#1295222997 "That's really helpful advice, thanks.") March 27th, 2017 14:03 UTC by [Reklaw](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html "View Reklaw's Profile") 2495 Views [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8381784-circumcision-revision-advice.html#1295222997 "That's really helpful advice, thanks.") by [Reklaw](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html "View Reklaw's Profile") March 27th, 2017 14:03 UTC 0 Replies ### [All Discussions](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8458600-all-discussions.html "Feel free to move to appropriate topic if this isnt correct since I figured it covered aspect so I went with general. Hi, Ive been reading on here about since fall 2014 but joined later, and have...") Topic started March 26th, 2017 20:12 UTC, by [aftershock](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4473184-aftershock.html "View aftershock's Profile") [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8458600-all-discussions.html#1295216145 "Feel free to move to appropriate topic if this isnt correct since I figured it covered aspect so I went with general. Hi, Ive been reading on here about since fall 2014 but joined later, and have...") March 26th, 2017 20:12 UTC by [aftershock](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4473184-aftershock.html "View aftershock's Profile") 2084 Views [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8458600-all-discussions.html#1295216145 "Feel free to move to appropriate topic if this isnt correct since I figured it covered aspect so I went with general. Hi, Ive been reading on here about since fall 2014 but joined later, and have...") by [aftershock](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4473184-aftershock.html "View aftershock's Profile") March 26th, 2017 20:12 UTC 0 Replies ### [FFT. different methods](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8458002-fft-different-methods.html "Just wanted to know if anyone who has had FFT. (or PMMA or HA) had it injected while erect or while flaccid?My first procedure of FFT. was done while I was flaccid. The second round 6 months later by...") Topic started March 26th, 2017 00:30 UTC, by Dr Oates [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8458002-fft-different-methods.html#1295208528 "Just wanted to know if anyone who has had FFT. (or PMMA or HA) had it injected while erect or while flaccid?My first procedure of FFT. was done while I was flaccid. The second round 6 months later by...") March 26th, 2017 00:30 UTC by Dr Oates 2009 Views [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8458002-fft-different-methods.html#1295208528 "Just wanted to know if anyone who has had FFT. (or PMMA or HA) had it injected while erect or while flaccid?My first procedure of FFT. was done while I was flaccid. The second round 6 months later by...") by Dr Oates March 26th, 2017 00:30 UTC 21 Replies ### [Comparing Gains with 10% vs 30% Concentrations](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/6364826-comparing-gains-with-10-vs-30-concentrations.html "I posted this in my thread, but a lot of guys understandably have questions regarding the gains of 10% vs 30%. The following charts are taken from member reports and compiled to provide centralized...") Topic started May 30th, 2013 06:52 UTC, by [briceb](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725992-briceb.html "View briceb's Profile") [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/6364826-comparing-gains-with-10-vs-30-concentrations.html?start=15#1295174748 "this is so awesome.. I'm so glad i found this site") March 22nd, 2017 19:24 UTC by [Bolkonsky](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4907368-bolkonsky.html "View Bolkonsky's Profile") - [1](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/6364826-comparing-gains-with-10-vs-30-concentrations.html?start=0 "Page:1") - [2](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/6364826-comparing-gains-with-10-vs-30-concentrations.html?start=15 "Page:2") 4734 Views [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/6364826-comparing-gains-with-10-vs-30-concentrations.html?start=15#1295174748 "this is so awesome.. I'm so glad i found this site") by [Bolkonsky](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4907368-bolkonsky.html "View Bolkonsky's Profile") March 22nd, 2017 19:24 UTC 18 Replies ### [Dr loria](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8327217-dr-loria.html "I'm trying to view pics from dr lorias patients but I can't see and I would really like to see some proof rather then taking his word any advice please respond or message thanks 7 x 4.5") Topic started November 30th, 2016 06:38 UTC, by [Girthmeup](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4756882-girthmeup.html "View Girthmeup's Profile") [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8327217-dr-loria.html?start=15#1295161263 "Catch 22, I applaud the guy for trying to solve a tough problem and trying many ways. Down side is he has become a snake oil salesmen, yes double meaning. If you dont do your research or use common...") March 21st, 2017 15:43 UTC by [aftershock](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4473184-aftershock.html "View aftershock's Profile") - [1](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8327217-dr-loria.html?start=0 "Page:1") - [2](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8327217-dr-loria.html?start=15 "Page:2") 4673 Views [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8327217-dr-loria.html?start=15#1295161263 "Catch 22, I applaud the guy for trying to solve a tough problem and trying many ways. Down side is he has become a snake oil salesmen, yes double meaning. If you dont do your research or use common...") by [aftershock](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4473184-aftershock.html "View aftershock's Profile") March 21st, 2017 15:43 UTC 47 Replies ### ["Lipen-10" a korean pmma penile injection](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/5710648-lipen-10-a-korean-pmma-penile-injection.html "Most of you know that the korean doctors did a lot of research in regard of penile girth enhancement and they were the 1st doctors in the world who did dermal filler glans injection and taught their...") Topic started February 15th, 2012 20:56 UTC, by [smartman](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725031-smartman.html "View smartman's Profile") [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/5710648-lipen-10-a-korean-pmma-penile-injection.html?start=45#1295160970 "Its in the 2nd year of the 2 year approval time the fda requires after 5 years of clinical test that had no serious or negative side effects above the 10pct range, all drugs and procedures using them all go through this") March 21st, 2017 15:16 UTC by [aftershock](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4473184-aftershock.html "View aftershock's Profile") - [1](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/5710648-lipen-10-a-korean-pmma-penile-injection.html?start=0 "Page:1") - [2](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/5710648-lipen-10-a-korean-pmma-penile-injection.html?start=15 "Page:2") - [3](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/5710648-lipen-10-a-korean-pmma-penile-injection.html?start=30 "Page:3") - [4](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/5710648-lipen-10-a-korean-pmma-penile-injection.html?start=45 "Page:4") 7997 Views [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/5710648-lipen-10-a-korean-pmma-penile-injection.html?start=45#1295160970 "Its in the 2nd year of the 2 year approval time the fda requires after 5 years of clinical test that had no serious or negative side effects above the 10pct range, all drugs and procedures using them all go through this") by [aftershock](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4473184-aftershock.html "View aftershock's Profile") March 21st, 2017 15:16 UTC 7 Replies ### [Big round VS little rounds PMMA](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8450129-big-round-vs-little-rounds-pmma.html "What do you guys think is better in terms of pure gains and aesthetics (regardless if it is 10% or 30%): . A big round 20-25 cc's . Three split little rounds, 10 cc's each. From what I am seeing...") Topic started March 18th, 2017 22:08 UTC, by Dr Oates [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8450129-big-round-vs-little-rounds-pmma.html#1295153446 "Speaking strictly to aesthetics, yes, I think you are right that multiple smaller rounds would be best.") March 20th, 2017 20:41 UTC by [briceb](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725992-briceb.html "View briceb's Profile") 2226 Views [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8450129-big-round-vs-little-rounds-pmma.html#1295153446 "Speaking strictly to aesthetics, yes, I think you are right that multiple smaller rounds would be best.") by [briceb](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725992-briceb.html "View briceb's Profile") March 20th, 2017 20:41 UTC 12 Replies ### [silver chain implants](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8443498-silver-chain-implants.html "Implant silver chains so they look like veins a feel amazing to women, apparently that's the weird I don't have any but thinking of getting") Topic started March 13th, 2017 04:02 UTC, by [girthobsessed](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4296739-girthobsessed.html "View girthobsessed's Profile") [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8443498-silver-chain-implants.html#1295135360 "Quote:I know us guys are impatient & want a nice girth & length, but installing anything foreign in your body is not good. Your body will reject it, especially the silicone implant into the penis. We are...") March 18th, 2017 21:52 UTC by Dr Oates 2453 Views [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8443498-silver-chain-implants.html#1295135360 "Quote:I know us guys are impatient & want a nice girth & length, but installing anything foreign in your body is not good. Your body will reject it, especially the silicone implant into the penis. We are...") by Dr Oates March 18th, 2017 21:52 UTC 9 Replies ### [Are we the unlucky Elist implantees?](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/7907532-are-we-the-unlucky-elist-implantees.html "If you are not aware of my elist implant experience, please search my posts and pictures to understand my credibility on this subject. I just had my scar tissue removed by elist this week. I took the...") Topic started January 28th, 2016 23:54 UTC, by [cvbbc](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/3982073-cvbbc.html "View cvbbc's Profile") [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/7907532-are-we-the-unlucky-elist-implantees.html#1295134447 "Quote:"[frown]" i already paid but didnt go yet to surgery, was very curious to try out the XXL haha. I am 6" erect, never had complaints on it. Actually most say im the perfect size (not trying to brag jus...") March 18th, 2017 19:42 UTC by [JazzyJ](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/1840735-jazzyj.html "View JazzyJ's Profile") 2472 Views [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/7907532-are-we-the-unlucky-elist-implantees.html#1295134447 "Quote:"[frown]" i already paid but didnt go yet to surgery, was very curious to try out the XXL haha. I am 6" erect, never had complaints on it. Actually most say im the perfect size (not trying to brag jus...") by [JazzyJ](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/1840735-jazzyj.html "View JazzyJ's Profile") March 18th, 2017 19:42 UTC 32 Replies ### [New member. PMMA or implant? plz help](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8438729-new-member-pmma-or-implant-plz-help.html "Hi, there are so many posts about Dr. C and I was wondering if PMMA is the way to go since there are no goood success stories coming from Elist. I am 6" erect length, 4" flaccid length. I will like to...") Topic started March 8th, 2017 16:02 UTC, by [leanninja](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4893588-leanninja.html "View leanninja's Profile") [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8438729-new-member-pmma-or-implant-plz-help.html?start=30#1295134212 ""He's a cat in a world of mice"") March 18th, 2017 19:12 UTC by [Reklaw](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html "View Reklaw's Profile") - [1](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8438729-new-member-pmma-or-implant-plz-help.html?start=0 "Page:1") - [2](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8438729-new-member-pmma-or-implant-plz-help.html?start=15 "Page:2") - [3](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8438729-new-member-pmma-or-implant-plz-help.html?start=30 "Page:3") 5890 Views [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8438729-new-member-pmma-or-implant-plz-help.html?start=30#1295134212 ""He's a cat in a world of mice"") by [Reklaw](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html "View Reklaw's Profile") March 18th, 2017 19:12 UTC 5 Replies ### [looking for advice sugical / non surgical](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8437538-looking-for-advice-sugical-non-surgical.html "I've been looking at all the different options for male enhancement and its confused me even more originally I wanted my length increased thinking it would make me bigger in my erect state of which...") Topic started March 7th, 2017 16:57 UTC, by [RogerA](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4891587-rogera.html "View RogerA's Profile") [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8437538-looking-for-advice-sugical-non-surgical.html#1295134133 "Seems like all kinds of doctors are trying to cash in on men's inadequate feelings of their manhood.....good luck finding the right procedure for yourself. I wish I could help, but I don't see...") March 18th, 2017 19:00 UTC by [JazzyJ](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/1840735-jazzyj.html "View JazzyJ's Profile") 2146 Views [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8437538-looking-for-advice-sugical-non-surgical.html#1295134133 "Seems like all kinds of doctors are trying to cash in on men's inadequate feelings of their manhood.....good luck finding the right procedure for yourself. I wish I could help, but I don't see...") by [JazzyJ](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/1840735-jazzyj.html "View JazzyJ's Profile") March 18th, 2017 19:00 UTC 14 Replies ### [Dr elist Vs Deutsches Zentrum f'r Urologie und Phalloplastische Chirurgie vs PMMA](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8347364-dr-elist-vs-deutsches-zentrum-fr-urologie-und-phalloplastische-chirurgie-vs-pmma.html "Hello everybody I read on many of the articles before joining this interesting forum that the German is the world champion about the lengthening and that this center is the best. Is that there are...") Topic started December 18th, 2016 19:25 UTC, by [riam](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4780046-riam.html "View riam's Profile") [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8347364-dr-elist-vs-deutsches-zentrum-fr-urologie-und-phalloplastische-chirurgie-vs-pmma.html#1295127398 "Here a thread about the german penis clinic: spoiler: it's not good...") March 17th, 2017 23:41 UTC by [Dream](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4492370-dream.html "View Dream's Profile") 4566 Views [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8347364-dr-elist-vs-deutsches-zentrum-fr-urologie-und-phalloplastische-chirurgie-vs-pmma.html#1295127398 "Here a thread about the german penis clinic: spoiler: it's not good...") by [Dream](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4492370-dream.html "View Dream's Profile") March 17th, 2017 23:41 UTC 0 Replies ### [adiprep(FFT/stem cell) plus PRP](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8448287-adiprep-fft-stem-cell-plus-prp.html "Has anyone else had this done in the last year or two? And by what doctor? So far Im very pleased with the result. I understand all of the possible problems with lumps,etc...that have been associated...") Topic started March 17th, 2017 04:52 UTC, by Dr Oates [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8448287-adiprep-fft-stem-cell-plus-prp.html#1295120172 "Use the search box there's plenty info with guys who've have had this done") March 17th, 2017 05:55 UTC by [Lexus27](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/2008135-lexus27.html "View Lexus27's Profile") 2135 Views [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8448287-adiprep-fft-stem-cell-plus-prp.html#1295120172 "Use the search box there's plenty info with guys who've have had this done") by [Lexus27](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/2008135-lexus27.html "View Lexus27's Profile") March 17th, 2017 05:55 UTC 1 Replies ### [Dr. Krakovsky?](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8433669-dr-krakovsky.html "Hello, I'm a newbie. It took me a while to figure out this forum. First I created an account on the "old" message board which directed me to the new message board. However, the link for the new forum...") Topic started March 4th, 2017 04:24 UTC, by [abc](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4884959-abc.html "View abc's Profile") [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8433669-dr-krakovsky.html#1295119723 "I would avoid. I had a problem with my first FFT/stem cell procedure about 7 months ago. My penis looked deformed..It was curved..it was shorter than before..still bruised after almost a month. I was...") March 17th, 2017 04:25 UTC by Dr Oates 2361 Views [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8433669-dr-krakovsky.html#1295119723 "I would avoid. I had a problem with my first FFT/stem cell procedure about 7 months ago. My penis looked deformed..It was curved..it was shorter than before..still bruised after almost a month. I was...") by Dr Oates March 17th, 2017 04:25 UTC 9 Replies ### [Avanti Derma Circumcised vs Uncircumcised video](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8445949-avanti-derma-circumcised-vs-uncircumcised-video.html "Just found a video on YouTube where Dr. C explains the benefits of being circumcised for the PMMA prosedure. After watching a video on YouTube about female pornstars...") Topic started March 15th, 2017 03:42 UTC, by [Cashew](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4475739-cashew.html "View Cashew's Profile") [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8445949-avanti-derma-circumcised-vs-uncircumcised-video.html#1295103424 "Looked at Dr. C video and it makes a lot of sense to me. As uncut with lose skin I have nocided the build up he talks about when the foreskin is back. He says at the end he only recommends one session...") March 15th, 2017 16:03 UTC by [Southdub](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4701651-southdub.html "View Southdub's Profile") 2937 Views [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8445949-avanti-derma-circumcised-vs-uncircumcised-video.html#1295103424 "Looked at Dr. C video and it makes a lot of sense to me. As uncut with lose skin I have nocided the build up he talks about when the foreskin is back. He says at the end he only recommends one session...") by [Southdub](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4701651-southdub.html "View Southdub's Profile") March 15th, 2017 16:03 UTC 4 Replies ### [Dr. N or Dr. C](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8439775-dr-n-or-dr-c.html "Hi, I read a lot of pages here about both doctors. Still unsure which one to go to. I live in NYC. I dont know which doctor to choose from. I am uncircumcised, I read that Dr. N has had better results...") Topic started March 9th, 2017 12:36 UTC, by [leanninja](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4893588-leanninja.html "View leanninja's Profile") [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8439775-dr-n-or-dr-c.html#1295096525 "Would go 10% first round and then decide if you want more. I am uncut too and got 15% which is a regret as I get an unnatural looking lump when foreskin is rolled back.") March 14th, 2017 23:17 UTC by [Southdub](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4701651-southdub.html "View Southdub's Profile") 2465 Views [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8439775-dr-n-or-dr-c.html#1295096525 "Would go 10% first round and then decide if you want more. I am uncut too and got 15% which is a regret as I get an unnatural looking lump when foreskin is rolled back.") by [Southdub](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4701651-southdub.html "View Southdub's Profile") March 14th, 2017 23:17 UTC 26 Replies ### [surgery in the uk](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8429165-surgery-in-the-uk.html "I have been doing some homework on getting surgery in the UK. It seems to me that its not as popular in the UK as the USA ? There are not many clinics or surgeons to pick from to be honest. Of the...") Topic started February 28th, 2017 15:12 UTC, by [rustydog](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4881161-rustydog.html "View rustydog's Profile") [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8429165-surgery-in-the-uk.html?start=15#1295092030 "From everything I have read I would never do fat transfer, i cant think why anyone would chose that over HA like voluma which is much safer, predictable and easy to correct. Unless your main priority...") March 14th, 2017 15:07 UTC by [sg0123456](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/1981198-sg0123456.html "View sg0123456's Profile") - [1](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8429165-surgery-in-the-uk.html?start=0 "Page:1") - [2](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8429165-surgery-in-the-uk.html?start=15 "Page:2") 4744 Views [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8429165-surgery-in-the-uk.html?start=15#1295092030 "From everything I have read I would never do fat transfer, i cant think why anyone would chose that over HA like voluma which is much safer, predictable and easy to correct. Unless your main priority...") by [sg0123456](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/1981198-sg0123456.html "View sg0123456's Profile") March 14th, 2017 15:07 UTC 0 Replies ### [Pumping when silicone done.](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8442729-pumping-when-silicone-done.html "What do you guys think about pumping when you have silicone (microdoplets or scrotum/corona) done? Is it safe? Or the negative pressure will do something bad to the silicone? More chance for...") Topic started March 12th, 2017 11:33 UTC, by Dr Oates [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8442729-pumping-when-silicone-done.html#1295071628 "What do you guys think about pumping when you have silicone (microdoplets or scrotum/corona) done? Is it safe? Or the negative pressure will do something bad to the silicone? More chance for...") March 12th, 2017 11:33 UTC by Dr Oates 1816 Views [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8442729-pumping-when-silicone-done.html#1295071628 "What do you guys think about pumping when you have silicone (microdoplets or scrotum/corona) done? Is it safe? Or the negative pressure will do something bad to the silicone? More chance for...") by Dr Oates March 12th, 2017 11:33 UTC 36 Replies ### [Going from 'too Small' Anxiety to 'will she find out'-Anxiety after PMMA? +more](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8383603-going-from-too-small-anxiety-to-will-she-find-out-anxiety-after-pmma-more.html "Hi there! Right now i am seriously considering PMMA and planning for it ( phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/pla...68135?pid=1294537403 )...") Topic started January 17th, 2017 11:32 UTC, by [Dream](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4492370-dream.html "View Dream's Profile") [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8383603-going-from-too-small-anxiety-to-will-she-find-out-anxiety-after-pmma-more.html?start=30#1295045397 "sorry mistaken post") March 9th, 2017 14:08 UTC by [Dream](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4492370-dream.html "View Dream's Profile") - [1](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8383603-going-from-too-small-anxiety-to-will-she-find-out-anxiety-after-pmma-more.html?start=0 "Page:1") - [2](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8383603-going-from-too-small-anxiety-to-will-she-find-out-anxiety-after-pmma-more.html?start=15 "Page:2") - [3](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8383603-going-from-too-small-anxiety-to-will-she-find-out-anxiety-after-pmma-more.html?start=30 "Page:3") 6056 Views [Last Post](https://phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8383603-going-from-too-small-anxiety-to-will-she-find-out-anxiety-after-pmma-more.html?start=30#1295045397 "sorry mistaken post") by [Dream](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/4492370-dream.html "View Dream's Profile") March 9th, 2017 14:08 UTC [ ](#forumtop)