TOPIC: Please someone help! I had 12ml Volux with Gary Horn - Androfill UK

Today I spent £2700 on 12ml of volux at Androfill with Dr Gary Horn, it went good considering how nervous i was, he didn’t speak much but once he was finished it just literally looked like 1 big lump, he didn’t inject it evenly which I thought you are supposed to do? So
I got home on the night and tried to mold it. It’s been really hard keeping Erection but I’ve been trying. My Dick looks a fucking mess. The filler just doesn’t want to move, I’ve actually started to bruise myself because I’m doing it hard as I’ve been told to! Francis has been very helpful, I will try again tomorrow morning but it’s not looking good, its all in 1 area and I literally can’t push it further up nor squash it around. What shall I do? The clock is ticking before it sets for good, if this doesn’t look good I’ll get the whole thing dissolved and I won’t be very happy at all. I’m wondering why Dr Gary Horn didn’t inject it evenly? I’ll update day by day and add pictures.

No I will try this tomorrow thank you.

So I’ve woke up and the bruising is bad from where I’ve been trying to force the filler to move! My Dick Just looks swollen as fuck too. I’ve had a warm shower and just cannot get an Erection because it’s
painful and tender on the bruising, this isn’t looking good at all. I wish the Dr did his old method with a needle and syringe and just injected it evenly in different areas, the filler is still in the same area, I’m going to head out and try get some viagra and a sleeve which Francis advised.

So I think it’s getting a little better. The swelling is huge and it’s kinda nice seeing it this big! I wish it wouldn’t go down, I can’t push the filler towards the little dent under the glans on the right so this will have to be another touch up session if I can. It doesn’t look as long as before.

Before
EG: 5.5
EL 6.8

The filler will honestly not push up towards the Glans, I’ve tried everything. I need to stop moulding before I do some internal damage. I honestly wish I didn’t pick this “premium” filler as its way to hard to move around. I’m going to rest for a day try let the swell go down and try one last time. I’m definitely having withdrawals now.

To be honest there is a lot of swelling going on (some swell more than others), and I'd continue following the post-op instruction and wait till the bruising & swelling is 100% dissipated to see where things are.

Sorry it’s a late post guys I’ve had stuff going on back
home I don’t know if anyone’s reading my thread but the swelling came down drastically to the point where I actually wish it didn’t. I’m happy with the gains but I don’t think it justifies the price. To be honest the filler is very soft which is bizarre. I purchased the high quality filler which was supposed to be harder? I don’t know if it’s still setting or what but at the minute it’s soft even when Erect but my penis is still some what hard if I can maintain a good Erection. Honestly the filler looks amazing. My Flaccid penis hangs like an Inch lower! It looks HUGE Flaccid which is massive confidence boost. I think I’m definitely going to go back and get a touch up just under my glands, on the right I have a dent which has always been there. Sex wise I haven’t had chance too yet, I’ve been working away and I’ll be seeing my wife in 4 weeks time, im excited to see how it goes. You cannot tell at all that I’ve had any work even Erect, it looks so natural, but it’s just a little squishy at the base. One of my big veins is now slightly hidden which I have noticed.

Hi guys so I’ve lost 80% of my gains! I’m absolutely gutted I noticed today after work and I’ve just had an Erection and you can’t even feel the filler at all! What other options have I got?! It looked so good with 10ml filler in after the first 2 weeks! I wasted £2700 on this I’m devastated. Has using the sun beds done this?

Holt wrote: Hi guys so I’ve lost 80% of my gains! I’m absolutely gutted I noticed today after work and I’ve just had an erection and you can’t even feel the filler at all! What other options have I got?! It looked so good with 10ml filler in after the first 2 weeks! I wasted £2700 on this I’m devastated. Has using the sun beds done this?

It appears you asked this question twice, so I went ahead and deleted the other topic out of redundancy. I will copy and paste the message you wrote in a separate topic below:

Topic Title: 12ml filler at Androfill - lost all my gains within 4 weeks
Hi guys, I’m absolutely gutted. So I had 12ml of volux at Androfill UK I picked 12ml filler which should have got me 0.5/0.6 Girth increase. The recovery was fine I moulded it perfect and I loved the look of my new Dick. I am in a long distance relationship I haven’t even seen my girl yet I am due to see her in 8 days time and I was so excited for the sex. Today after work I noticed wtf my Flaccid Dick looks like my old one and all day I’ve been feeling so bad. I got in from work and managed to get a hard on and yeah I’ve lost everything. My Dick looks and feels exactly the same. You can’t even feel the filler no more. What did I do wrong? I went on the sun beds like 4 times but surely that would not dissolve it? I feel heartbroken, after spending £2700 on something that I didn’t even get to use. Do I have any other options other than PMMA? -- @Holt



My response to that thread is as follows:

You are very much an outlier statistically. Our body's reabsorption/break-down of fillers vary person-to-person, with reports of guys retaining most of their HA for as much as 2 years (obviously less common) and as little as 6 months. However, 4 weeks is the quickest I've ever heard of full dissipation.

I have no idea if the sunbeds could have played a role but concentrated ultra-violet may have played a role, hard to say (although with how extreme your losses have been, it's a plausible hypothesis). Either way, I would reach out to Androfill (namely Francis) and tell him your situation. Also explain the sunbeds, as Hyaluronic Acid (HA) being a temporary may very well be less robust under certain conditions.

I will say however this does not appear to be the fault of Volux, Androfill, or even you. This seems to be either the unfortunate matter of your body have an incredibly high propensity to breakdown filler (which may make you better suited for Ellanse) and/or exposure to intense UV, which I can't blame Androfill for not including this as a warning because there is no telling if other men who have lost filler quickly made mention of their sunbed use, and to be frank, don't often hear men make indoor tanning a regular thing.

As a matter of fact, halfway through this post I decided to do a little digging. It turns out 70% of indoor tanning boutiques cater to Caucasian women, which means the remaining 30% account can account for a blend of men and women of different pigmentation. Granted, this is just one statistic found on Google, but other sites suggests that in the U.S. (not too different from the U.K. I'd imagine in this regard) see a prevalence of 1% to 2% of the overall male population as having ever indoor tanned. This means the prevalence of male indoor tanning is so infrequent that I don't know if I can fault Androfill for not having issued the warning, especially since the role of informed consent includes sharing with you potential complications; the use of a sunbed that may* degrade HA quicker than usual wouldn't apply. Heck, to think of it, I wonder if any Clinic on this site mentions avoiding UV in any of their materials given to their patients pre-op & post-op, it's just so exceedingly uncommon (that it's the first time I've read about it here where guys get HA all the time).

Even more telling is this (while I can't say for certain the claims below are accurate, it's worth mentioning the site itself deals with Skin Cancer, so I have reason to believe there may be some legitimacy to it), see below -->

From www.advancedlaserandskincancercenter.com/
Scientific research has indicated that UV exposure via sunlight and tanning beds degrades hyaluronic acid (as well as collagen). Therefore, safety precautions should be taken to protect the long-term results of dermal filler treatment during the summer months.

After having reading this, I am now heavily leaning toward the UV hypothesis, especially since the above claim includes dermal fillers by name. You see, 4 weeks is just insanely quick, like record-setting quick. You could very well be one of those who breakdown filler faster and HAPPENED to have UV only expedite the process, that's also a possibility. Again, this does not seem like the fault of any party or product, but possibly an unfortunate dance with fate, unknowingly exposing a dermal filler compound to intense and focused UV.

If it turns out the UV played a significant role and confirmed with high confidence, then I'm going to issue a PSA to the forum and a newsletter to all my Sponsors to begin including this information as it pertains to HA injections.

My strongest suggestion is to reach out to Francis, explain the losses, explain the sunbed and that there may be reason to believe UV can impact the HA filler and see what comes of it. There may be reason to believe HA will work for you so long as you discontinue sunbed use, or he may suggest Ellanse would be the better way to go while limiting sunbed use if this is something you'd like to continue doing down the road.

Trust me, they don't want patients spending thousands to see it gone in 4 weeks. I implore you to reach out to Francis next week given that it is the weekend now.

Thanks for the reply, honestly i feel like pure shit. I can’t believe I’ve lost so much compared to other guys on here. I need your help. Apart from Ellanse and PMMA what other options do I have? I don’t have £10000 lying around for Ellanse it’s stupidly overpriced. I’ve found a clinic in Spain; Madrid. He’s called Dr. Alejandro Molina Cabeza and his clinic is called saludsexualvalclinic.com. They offer various Girth enhancements, collagen and stem cell ones. Would this be worth it? I’m willing to take any risks possible, i really don’t want to get PMMA but it looks like it’s the only option at the minute. Please help guys I hate the skinniness of my Dick! I’m 7 Inch length on a very good day but because it’s long and skinny it looks ridiculous. I have a feeling my GF has been with bigger guys in the past, she likes black dudes which is fine but we all know they’re hung like a horse! It just makes me feel like pure shit. All I’m asking for is for a nice 0.5 Inch Girth increase that will last me a few years!

Holt wrote: Thanks for the reply, honestly i feel like pure shit. I can’t believe I’ve lost so much compared to other guys on here. I need your help. Apart from Ellanse and PMMA what other options do I have? I don’t have £10000 lying around for Ellanse it’s stupidly overpriced. I’ve found a clinic in Spain; Madrid. He’s called Dr. Alejandro Molina Cabeza and his clinic is called saludsexualvalclinic.com. They offer various Girth enhancements, collagen and stem cell ones. Would this be worth it? I’m willing to take any risks possible, i really don’t want to get PMMA but it looks like it’s the only option at the minute. Please help guys I hate the skinniness of my Dick! I’m 7 Inch length on a very good day but because it’s long and skinny it looks ridiculous. I have a feeling my GF has been with bigger guys in the past, she likes black dudes which is fine but we all know they’re hung like a horse! It just makes me feel like pure shit. All I’m asking for is for a nice 0.5 Inch Girth increase that will last me a few years!

I'm definitely thinking the multiple sunbed exposures may have played a role in your HA degradation, but whatever the reason, I think you should still reach out to Francis to see if there are options he may be able to offer.

You're 7" x 5.5" ... I don't want to sound like that guy but... you're by all standards above-average, if not outright "hung" by some standards. You can probably even comfortably fit into Magnum XL's (American Brand of condoms made for the extra thick).

And I don't want to perpetuate stereotypes here, black men aren't all endowed, and the guys in adult videos aren't representative of the general population. Could black men be larger on average than other races? Perhaps, but we're talking about fractions of an Inch bigger when discussing "averages." I've seen multiple posts in the past by black men who felt compelled to get Phalloplasty because they felt that everyone expected them to be hung, and the reality is that most men fall into the average size-range, irrespective of race. You're just as big with a 7" x 5.5" with whatever stereotype you or she might perceive, if it's relevant at all. There will always be a guy bigger, richer, smarter, funnier, and better looking.

I'm just pointing this out because you sound desperate for someone who isn't in dire straits. It's one thing if you were bankrupt, looking for whatever loan you can take, no matter how high the interest rate. This is what you sound like when talking about finding another Girth procedure. These are elective, specialized, and niche medical procedures, so they are naturally going to be expensive, I'd be cautious not to cut corners with untested/unknown Clinics. Perhaps if you can find a good number of credible reviews of their Practice overall, maybe it's worth consideration, but the desperation I'm hearing seems misplaced (and I say that respectfully).

I know plenty of guys who are on the larger side that come to these forums to get work done. I don't get it, but I don't judge either. I just feel your comment "I'm willing to take any risks possible" is a major red flag my friend. You may want to pump the breaks and get some perspective. If I were a Doctor and a patient said that to me, I'd turn him away, and I know many Clinics that Sponsor this site who would do the same -- food for thought.

And without trying to get all in your business, you've mentioned both a wife AND a GF (girlfriend) in this very topic. I'm confused. Didn't you say you were seeing your wife, but now you're talking about a GF? I'm not here to judge but I think it sounds like you got a lot more on your plate than 0.5" in Erect Girth, and you may want to prioritize the more important things in life -- I say that sincerely and respectfully.