TOPIC: Carney Lengthening- In search of at least 1.5 erect inches or die trying- help!

Any guys on here that can actually confirm at least 1.5 inches of length by any methods? I have a new partner and deep penetration is the only thing that makes her climax. I am committed to trying to get about 6.75 inches if its the last thing I do. I am 5.25 now. Please help. Carney seems like the most respected on this forum but i havent heard anything that actually makes me believe it works.

In all their combined (Morganstern & Carney) years of ever performing Male Enhancement (namely Ligamentolysis), I do believe I've been told by my contact there that they've seen those elusive "big gains" in the past, but I also believe that they are uncommon.

The other issues making it complicated to follow the legitimacy & success of these ligament/lengthening procedures are:

• Progress reports are hard to come by because it can take months of tedious post-op protocol to fully realize gains, and many men simply don't have the added time to keep up with the forum, either because they gave up on the stretching, or because they have only so much time in the day to devote to penis enlargement (this is my strong hunch).
• Speaking of post-op protocol, much of the success of the procedure is predicated on following the stretching regimen which can in-fact take months, and I wouldn't be surprised to know that some men simply don't fulfill those terms to the end. It's a lot to ask, especially if you weren't one of the lucky ones who managed to get an Inch+ from the surgery alone.
• Speaking of "lucky ones," the last issue is that results likely vary person-to-person. Everyone's anatomy (and ligaments) are different and how much "yield" we get likely varies also. This is why I'm reluctant to endorse any guarantee of length unless proven otherwise.

All that said, if in the right hands, I could see myself consider lengthening in the near future. I too am about your length on my best of days (that assumes 100% Erection quality & reduced fat pad), and I'd love to get to the 6.5" ballpark (which by the way, you could convince most women a banana that long is 8" and they'd believe you, most people are poor guesses at spatial dimensions).

It's conceivable to realize gains from this kind of surgery, but with the right practitioner and the right attitude about post-op commitment. At least then you'll get some sort of Return-on-Investment, even if marginal.

I would ask to talk with Dr. Carney and have him explain to you about the nuances of his lengthening procedure. They have a very technical approach that I yet don't fully understand (working on getting that published on the forum someday), and its a combination of techniques refined over years of doing this procedure. It's Ligamentolysis at its core, but I believe he can share more with you over the phone. That'd be my advice.

honested wrote: Any guys on here that can actually confirm at least 1.5 inches of length by any methods? I have a new partner and deep penetration is the only thing that makes her climax. I am committed to trying to get about 6.75 inches if its the last thing I do. I am 5.25 now. Please help. Carney seems like the most respected on this forum but i havent heard anything that actually makes me believe it works.

And not to get side-tracked, but I wouldn't go too hard on yourself. If she can only get off with deep penetration, then honestly her sex life must suck. She's asking something that men can't normally change or acquire (like height, etc.), and while that's her preference, you have to also remember that some times sexual compatibility wont always be there with every partner, no matter the type of attraction.

What if you had a skinny penis and she liked to be filled up and stretched out? Sexually incompatible. What if she orgasms through receiving oral sex, but you don't like going down on women. Sexually incompatible. What if she likes marathon sex but you can't make it past 10 minutes without a pop. Sexually incompatible.

And flip the tables -- what if you loved curvy, well endowed women, and she was skinny and "flat?" Sexually incompatible. The list goes on.

That said, I want to point out that I don't believe sexual incompatibility is a reason to break a relationship off, and I also want to point out that some of these incompatibilities can be corrected with effort and time. Just don't beat yourself up over things that are out of your control.

So don't beat yourself up over it, and the good news is that there is plausibility in gaining length, through surgery, manual PE exercises, or both. Unless you think she's long-term/wifey material, I'm not sure I'd dive head-deep into this kind of procedure either, "just for her sake." Of course like I said before, I'd chat with Dr. Carney to at least get more of a technical background on what you can REALLY expect going into something like this.

Skeptical one you are the man. Thank you for your timely response. Do you work with an ADS or would you consider one?

I really do hear you about compatibility. Its hard as fuck. This girl is amazing and in love with me. But she really does only cum from deep penetration. Believe its hell. Ive made her cum a handful of times probably. I thought Girth was gonna be an easy fix but as Ive learned her body it really is the deep spot she needs. Ultimately it comes down to MY satisfcation. She says shes completely happy, but I AM NOT HAPPY. I know things could be better. Im willing to try with her. Some days are harder than others. I

honested wrote: Skeptical one you are the man. Thank you for your timely response. Do you work with an ADS or would you consider one?

Unfortunately due to my under-average glans size and my overly-thick (by choice) shaft, these devices aren't designed for my parameters, and often slip or are uncomfortable.

I have actually managed to improve my length well before I found PhalloBoards (and was more active on Thundersplace) -- it was a combination of wet jelqs and ballooning (kind of like edging, if not the same thing). At my peak I just grazed the 6" mark but ultimately got lazy (I was much younger then and didn't have wisdom to realize this needed to be a maintenance thing and not a one & done).

I want to point out that while I have had success with manual PE exercises, they can be prone to injury. You see, out of eagerness (or desperation), men can sometimes push their limits without knowing what their penis can handle. It's like a newbie at the gym who has poor form, only to throw his shoulder out. I've seen it happen just like I've read about Phalloplasty complications. None of this comes without risk.

Already a victim of a Jelqing injury. Seeing Morganstern to try to remove plaque in March. Pretty optimistic of me to think i can heal, then gain length. Taking Action feels better than not. I bought a 1.5 Inch extension to put on my Dick during sex today. Maybe that will solve all my problems lol.

So, I believe in it enough, and the Dr, I just put my money down to get cut next month. Heres my two cents, form multiple convo's with their office and from the boards. The results are certainly achievable, and while that may seem far fetched to some; just stop and do some research. Now, having said that, I will say this; every penis is different - so if course results may vary . BUT you what else varies greatly? Everyone's God Damn work ethic. So, after they cut you and give some gains, the rest comes down to you and the work you are willing to put to really get everything stretched out and lengthened. Just like trainers at gym who have no idea what their clients do once they leave the sessions; these doctors will never really know what the amount of stretching & Hanging someone does when they leave, was it just one or was it both, how many times a day, the amount of hours per day and per week, the types of devices used, the placement of the devices. They wont know.
What they do seem to know concretely is this ( and i have asked ) those who have gained the most after a cut have admitted they stretched and hung or both. Those who have been honest with themselves and the Dr and admitted they didnt do much for Hanging also didnt gain to much other than the inital.
( i can say legitimately as I have two friends on this board - one of them in each of these categories - i will NOT call them by name please do not ask ). but that does line up exactly with what they have been telling me all along.

in addition, people seem to trail off from the board after they get some thing done and only return when they need something. It is what it is, so we deal with it . So it is hard to get exact data from the field that has not been filtered through a Dr's office and gone through any screening. I wish it were otherwise. I have been messaging members frequently tp get them to update their posts.

Hope this little ramble helps out a little.

I went under the knife 3 weeks ago . Also had monsplasty . Everything has gone as expected -- roughly . I gained about 3 inches Flaccid from before operation. To after .

I think it's more like 2.5 because I think I had some retraction. 3 weeks out I still am 6..5 nbpfl though . Still swelling so who knows . That's sposed to translate to 1.5 Erect . I see maybe a little but uts too early to know .

I'll stretch/hang and see . I don't think the exact protocol matters much . Timexforce

What has been brewing in my mind lately, not to disrespect your procedure, is how much cutting ligs is necessary. It seems like it all comes down to Hanging which stretches the ligs out. Perhaps cutting ligs greatly enhances that process? I'm super curious about your erections post op and if the angle or "free floating" thing is an issue for you. Being able to apply pressure to the front wall of my partners during intercourse with my Dick is important to me and having resistance is not something I want to lose.

Congrats on your journey. It sounds very promising and something I am very highly considering. Thank you for sharing.

Good questions . From what I have heard , none of the top doctors have observed more than a 10-15 degree drop in angle and looseness at the base is extremely unusual .

I never gained from Hanging or stretching . Never felt fatigue . I'm not doing anything other than the extender right now , but I feel fatigue after about 10 minutes and there is maybe 1-2 lbs of force at most . This is different . Will it translate ? Who knows .

Good luck !

I didn't ask dr about the theory of post ligament stretching . There was a study I believe that suggested additional gains from post ligament stretching or Hanging in the 5-10 pct range .

I think I read that heavy weight is geared toward ligs and light weight long time is for tunica. I wonder if the stretching also pulls out more inner penis .

What are your thoughts ?

I can already tell that I will hit fatigue with a few pounds of force btw . I hope that translates



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Skeptical_One wrote: In all their combined (Morganstern & Carney) years of ever performing Male Enhancement (namely Ligamentolysis), I do believe I've been told by my contact there that they've seen those elusive "big gains" in the past, but I also believe that they are uncommon.

The other issues making it complicated to follow the legitimacy & success of these ligament/lengthening procedures are:

• Progress reports are hard to come by because it can take months of tedious post-op protocol to fully realize gains, and many men simply don't have the added time to keep up with the forum, either because they gave up on the stretching, or because they have only so much time in the day to devote to penis enlargement (this is my strong hunch).
• Speaking of post-op protocol, much of the success of the procedure is predicated on following the stretching regimen which can in-fact take months, and I wouldn't be surprised to know that some men simply don't fulfill those terms to the end. It's a lot to ask, especially if you weren't one of the lucky ones who managed to get an Inch+ from the surgery alone.
• Speaking of "lucky ones," the last issue is that results likely vary person-to-person. Everyone's anatomy (and ligaments) are different and how much "yield" we get likely varies also. This is why I'm reluctant to endorse any guarantee of length unless proven otherwise.

All that said, if in the right hands, I could see myself consider lengthening in the near future. I too am about your length on my best of days (that assumes 100% Erection quality & reduced fat pad), and I'd love to get to the 6.5" ballpark (which by the way, you could convince most women a banana that long is 8" and they'd believe you, most people are poor guesses at spatial dimensions).

It's conceivable to realize gains from this kind of surgery, but with the right practitioner and the right attitude about post-op commitment. At least then you'll get some sort of Return-on-Investment, even if marginal.

I would ask to talk with Dr. Carney and have him explain to you about the nuances of his lengthening procedure. They have a very technical approach that I yet don't fully understand (working on getting that published on the forum someday), and its a combination of techniques refined over years of doing this procedure. It's Ligamentolysis at its core, but I believe he can share more with you over the phone. That'd be my advice.

does this surgery remove the fat pad?

Texas wrote: So, I believe in it enough, and the Dr, I just put my money down to get cut next month. Heres my two cents, form multiple convo's with their office and from the boards. The results are certainly achievable, and while that may seem far fetched to some; just stop and do some research. Now, having said that, I will say this; every penis is different - so if course results may vary . BUT you what else varies greatly? Everyone's God Damn work ethic. So, after they cut you and give some gains, the rest comes down to you and the work you are willing to put to really get everything stretched out and lengthened. Just like trainers at gym who have no idea what their clients do once they leave the sessions; these doctors will never really know what the amount of stretching & Hanging someone does when they leave, was it just one or was it both, how many times a day, the amount of hours per day and per week, the types of devices used, the placement of the devices. They wont know.
What they do seem to know concretely is this ( and i have asked ) those who have gained the most after a cut have admitted they stretched and hung or both. Those who have been honest with themselves and the Dr and admitted they didnt do much for Hanging also didnt gain to much other than the inital.
( i can say legitimately as I have two friends on this board - one of them in each of these categories - i will NOT call them by name please do not ask ). but that does line up exactly with what they have been telling me all along.

in addition, people seem to trail off from the board after they get some thing done and only return when they need something. It is what it is, so we deal with it . So it is hard to get exact data from the field that has not been filtered through a Dr's office and gone through any screening. I wish it were otherwise. I have been messaging members frequently tp get them to update their posts.

Hope this little ramble helps out a little.

did you ever get this surgery done?

Dthom wrote: Good luck !

I didn't ask dr about the theory of post ligament stretching . There was a study I believe that suggested additional gains from post ligament stretching or Hanging in the 5-10 pct range .

I think I read that heavy weight is geared toward ligs and light weight long time is for tunica. I wonder if the stretching also pulls out more inner penis .

What are your thoughts ?

I can already tell that I will hit fatigue with a few pounds of force btw . I hope that translates



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do you have a update on your Erect length gains? did this procedure reduce your fat pad or was it just a lig cut?