TOPIC: Androfill - Will/Does Ellanse M cost the same as L/E

Hello everyone

So I read that they've stopped making Ellanse L and E and I was wondering if anyone knew if Ellanse will be thus less expensive at the Androfill clinic.

How much does it cost per ml?

Thank you for your time

Can I please ask where you read they stopped making Ellanse L?

Hyperbol wrote: Can I please ask where you read they stopped making Ellanse L?

It's Androfill but I just realized that was 10 months ago. So I'm not sure if it's still the case

In other developments regarding Ellanse, the UK distributor Sinclair has told us that Ellanse E (4 years) is no longer available, and potentially Ellanse L (3 years) will also be withdrawn, leaving only the Ellanse S (1 year) and M (2 years). This takes away a lot of the benefit of the product in terms of longer duration. However, I believe the main benefit of Ellanse remains the hardness, the difference being particularly noticeable versus HA when we start to talk about more than a 0.75 Inch / 2 cm gain in circumference.

Thats an awful deal considering you are paying the same for the 2year version as the 4year one. Doesn´t make any sense.

@Concelhaut Ok well I'm not sure how you equate "potentially will be withdrawn" and "stopped making" as the same thing. They are still selling and making Ellanse L.

@fightclub Who is paying the same for all versions? M and S is cheaper at Avanti.

May I ask why everyone so obsessed with Ellanse? Isn’t that option temporary? Wouldn’t you want something more permanent like Linnea that’s a more permanent solution and get more bang for your buck?

New1inch wrote: May I ask why everyone so obsessed with Ellanse? Isn’t that option temporary? Wouldn’t you want something more permanent like Linnea that’s a more permanent solution and get more bang for your buck?

Because I live in Europe and I'm interested in the collagen mechanism that Ellanse gives rise to.

It was a tough decision. I didn’t want money to factor into my decision. I say that though because Avanti is more reasonable with their Ellanse prices compared to Androfill or the Australian clinics. If it was more expensive I might have opted for PMMA because I’m not rich. But if I lived in those other regions, PMMA wouldn’t really be an option.

I like the idea of being able to let it go away if there are any real problems. Yes, I know it would take years but I believe waiting is better than degloving. This piece of mind will allow me to see how far I can push the size if the doctors are willing. We aren’t sure if the swelling

We aren’t sure if the post sex swelling is caused by the product or by both collagen and product. I doubt it’s just the collagen. Some science is pointing towards being able to sustain more Girth with less product. If it’s true that the collagen will stick around for years after the product is dissolved, you can get more rounds and only have that amount be in you. So in theory, you could maintain or even gain Girth with only, say, 12 cc of product in you.

New1inch wrote: May I ask why everyone so obsessed with Ellanse? Isn’t that option temporary? Wouldn’t you want something more permanent like Linnea that’s a more permanent solution and get more bang for your buck?

There are many reasons for it. I think the main one is that people in Europe don´t want to waste money and time traveling to Mexico to have the PMMA.
Also Ellanse offers less risks and the fact that there are reports of guys that have it for 4+ years and haven´t lost even 0.1". If this product can actually last much more than expected and return perm gains from collagen formation then it´s a great choice.

So I came across Dr Loria in Miami and apparently he injects a substance that's collagen inducing but is permanent.
Dr Loria

@Concelhaut lol good luck with that

Hyperbol wrote: @Concelhaut lol good luck with that

Yeah I then read he doesn't have a good reputation here.

Hyperbol wrote: It was a tough decision. I didn’t want money to factor into my decision. I say that though because Avanti is more reasonable with their Ellanse prices compared to Androfill or the Australian clinics. If it was more expensive I might have opted for PMMA because I’m not rich. But if I lived in those other regions, PMMA wouldn’t really be an option.

I like the idea of being able to let it go away if there are any real problems. Yes, I know it would take years but I believe waiting is better than degloving. This piece of mind will allow me to see how far I can push the size if the doctors are willing. We aren’t sure if the swelling

We aren’t sure if the post sex swelling is caused by the product or by both collagen and product. I doubt it’s just the collagen. Some science is pointing towards being able to sustain more Girth with less product. If it’s true that the collagen will stick around for years after the product is dissolved, you can get more rounds and only have that amount be in you. So in theory, you could maintain or even gain Girth with only, say, 12 cc of product in you.

Does Ellanse cost more than Lennase at Avanti Derma? Does Ellanse bring more collagen growth then PMMA? How long does it supposed to last on paper?

Yeah it's more expensive. 12 cc is about $1400 more than 20 cc of PMMA (granted guys get some of that as 10%). On paper the L version is supposed to last 3 years but guys are heading into 4 years with no loss and facial studies have shown the M version (2 year) has stuck around for twice as long. And then there's the whole collagen half life theory of 15 years where at 15 years post PCL you'd be left with half of the collagen. Lifestyle factors influence this and I'd bet it's less than 15 but even if you have half at ten and the full amount at 4 or 5 years, that's pretty substantial, who knows. 10-12 cc of Ellanse has been bringing the same gains as about 16-17cc of PMMA (.5 Inch, some get .6). Although, if you get the full 20-21 cc PMMA deal at Avanti, you'd get more I believe. There have been several .75 Inch first round gains from the max PMMA procedure. Not that .75 is guaranteed but it seems more likely now.

Hyperbol wrote: Yeah it's more expensive. 12 cc is about $1400 more than 20 cc of PMMA (granted guys get some of that as 10%). On paper the L version is supposed to last 3 years but guys are heading into 4 years with no loss and facial studies have shown the M version (2 year) has stuck around for twice as long. And then there's the whole collagen half life theory of 15 years where at 15 years post PCL you'd be left with half of the collagen. Lifestyle factors influence this and I'd bet it's less than 15 but even if you have half at ten and the full amount at 4 or 5 years, that's pretty substantial, who knows. 10-12 cc of Ellanse has been bringing the same gains as about 16-17cc of PMMA (.5 Inch, some get .6). Although, if you get the full 20-21 cc PMMA deal at Avanti, you'd get more I believe. There have been several .75 Inch first round gains from the max PMMA procedure. Not that .75 is guaranteed but it seems more likely now.

Ohhh ok. I didn’t know Both E and L were both temporary. Haha. So PMMA is permanent and E and L dissolve over the years. Got it, thanks bro.